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General => Research Needed => Topic started by: Ranantanonnha on December 19, 2007, 08:22:04 am

Title: Are these people for real??????
Post by: Ranantanonnha on December 19, 2007, 08:22:04 am: Does anyone know any of these people and if they're legit?

I'm in the process of checking one of them out myself.

Jim Wellheiser

http://www.native-reenactors.ca/

http://www.shannonthunderbird.com/motivational_speaker.htm

http://cgi.bowesonline.com/pedro.php?id=25&x=story&xid=177653

http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/CA-ONT-CEMETERIES/2005-08/1123772465

http://historycomesalive.ca/canadians/jim.htm

http://www.historycomesalive.ca/canadians/images/jimpics.htm

David Morris

http://historycomesalive.ca/canadians/tecumseh.htm

Shannon Thunderbird
It took me almost an hour and a half to sift through this site. You've really got to have a look at it.

http://www.shannonthunderbird.com/Home.htm

http://www.storytellingtoronto.org/Directory_Pages/Dir_ShannonThunderbird.html

Barbara Butterfly Dreamer and John Thunder Wolf

http://www.blacklightning.on.ca/
Title: Re: Are these people for real??????
Post by: debbieredbear on December 19, 2007, 05:37:32 pm: The last link, this one mentions "sweet medicine sundance". That is Harley "swift deer" r\Reagan's sex cul;t bunch. Definite frauds there. Can't say on the others. I don't have time to really look.
Title: Re: Are these people for real??????
Post by: Moma_porcupine on December 19, 2007, 06:15:07 pm: There is a thread on Shannon Thunderbird here;

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=864.msg4530#msg4530 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=864.msg4530#msg4530)
Title: Re: Are these people for real??????
Post by: educatedindian on December 20, 2007, 05:48:53 pm: There's also already a thread on Wellheiser under Research Needed, titled Disco Ball.
Title: Re: Are these people for real??????
Post by: Ranantanonnha on December 20, 2007, 10:24:19 pm: I guess I'm not the only one that thinks they're hokey. That disco ball thread has some pretty good stuff but some of the links didn't work.

There's got to be some way to stop people like that.
Title: Re: Are these people for real??????
Post by: dabosijigwokush on December 30, 2007, 05:17:57 am: native-reenactors.ca Whois Form
Organization: On-gwe-ho-way
Description: Native Re-enactors group web site, explaining what we are all about.
Admin-Name: Dale Adamson
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Admin-Postal: On-gwe-ho-way
5 Hadley Court
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Tech-Name: Network Admin
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Tech-Postal: EasyHosting.com
8250 Lawson Road
Milton ON L9T 5C6 Canada
Tech-Phone: +1.8774145665
Tech-Fax: +1.9056933646
Tech-Mailbox: postmaster@easyhosting.com
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Registration information: http://www.cira.ca/
Title: Re: Are these people for real??????
Post by: dabosijigwokush on January 05, 2008, 03:43:39 am: blacklightning started in oct 7 2000

blacklightning.on.ca Whois Form
Organization: Black Lightning Lodge
Description: Black Lightning Lodge develops and delivers personal
growth seminars and workshops in southern Ontario.
It is a not-for-profit organization.
Admin-Name: John Dowden Ardagh
Admin-Title: Principal
Admin-Postal: Black Lightning Lodge
35 Springdale Boulevard East
York ON M4J 1W4 Canada
Admin-Phone: +1 (416) 466-9700
Admin-Fax: +1 (416) 466-9232
Admin-Mailbox: kdt@tcn.net
Tech-Name: Ted Leslie
Tech-Title: Director, Technical Services
Tech-Postal: TCN Systems Group Inc.
33 Harbour Square Harbour Business Center
Suite 205
Toronto ON M5J 2G2 Canada
Tech-Phone: +1 (416) 359-0921
Tech-Fax: +1 (416) 359-9181
Tech-Mailbox: tleslie@tcn.net
NS1-Hostname: titan.tcn.net
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Registration information: http://www.cira.ca/
Title: Re: Are these people for real??????
Post by: sox on January 05, 2008, 11:41:25 pm: Well, Sandy Horne is quite famous in Canada as the ex-bassist of the Spoons in the 80's. Her other project is
http://www.myspace.com/crookedtrailband (http://www.myspace.com/crookedtrailband) but I can't see where her Native connection comes in.

From MySpace page:
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has toured Japan with Shannon Thunderbird and is a sweatlodge keeper near her home in Guelph Ontario.

One of the other members is Mohawk/Cayuga and another
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Tiring of the media hype, Rick returned to his spiritual home of the Anishinaube
...and we pretty much know what that normally means...

sox
Title: Re: Are these people for real??????
Post by: Ranantanonnha on January 13, 2008, 06:22:06 pm: I found out that Mr. Wellheiser has already been reprimanded by a few of our people here at Grand River (small world)! Apparently he is of German descent and claimed to have been "taught the ways of the Nez Perce" and his grandfather was an "adopted Mohawk" (that's a first for me lol). He was told that the Mohawk Nation at Grand River has naver had any formal adoptions.
Title: Re: Are these people for real??????
Post by: Skully on January 13, 2008, 07:14:56 pm: Feh!