It may be more effective to just focus on pointing out the facts, [...] showing how they seem to be talking out of both sides of their mouth, or being dishonest or otherwise is doing harm [...].
why is it that white people always get so upset when people don't like them?
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From: "Ben_Carnes" <mountain_homie@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: alt.native
Subject: Monica. Words from the Brown Idiot
Date: 16 Aug 2006
Communicating through the internet really sucks. First, you don't get to hear the inflection of a person's voice. Second, you don't see the person's face. and Third, we are still strangers to each other.
I am Kitty's husband, the one you called a brown idiot. You know whether I agreed with you or not, I personally supported your stand on principle for Johnm Boys Graham and Arlo. My true opinion on the entire case of Annie Mae, is the M-----F---ing feds were behind it. I don't excuse the person who pulled the trigger, but until the feds are on trial for Annie Mae's murder, every so called evidence is suspect to me. We may never know the truth.
But on the other hand the one truth that I do know, which I know that you don't know is that I fell in love with a woman who happens to be white and does know who all her blood ancestry is, and is pretty damn proud of who she is. She has never claimed to be Indian. I spoke with a Mohawk woman once who told me that what business is it of anyone else's if you fall in love. The color of a person's skin shouldn't matter. That came out of a discussion because another Mohawk woman made a comment, "What is a man of his stature doing marrying a woman like that". That comment came from a mother of another Sundancer, but I am accustomed to racism from our own people, even when it sounds like Aryan Nation rhetoric or bullshit. Am I weak because the Creator or God allows me to love one of his children? Are you saying the Creator is wrong for allowing me to love someone and their daughter who respects our way of life? Come on Monica, I didn't wake up one morning and decide I'm weak, I guess I'll go and find me a white woman.
You have no idea of what my life has been like, who I have been with, nor have you lived the experiences I have lived. Yet, because I am with a white woman, I am a brown idiot. I can truly say that I am disappointed at what I consider a verbal affront through a public ng. I personally expected better of you. I know that you sometimes feel that you have to feel that you have to defend yourself from attacks, but I saw this as totally unnecessary. My wife was not attacking you, she only made a humourous remark to lighten the situation, and somehow I became a brown idiot.
When I met my wife, Kitty, I had pretty much gave up on any meaningful relationship with women. I felt that my life was to be one of solitude, and working for the people. If it meant that I may end up dying and never having children to carry on for me, then that is what I would do to honor the path the Creator had set for me. Instead, we met and began a relationship. And Monica it hasn't been easy for her, because she is white. But as I said, she knows who she is. Look at it this way, say that if all you knew was that you were Indian, but didn't know what Nation you belonged to. Does that make you any less Native?
I am of the Choctaw Nation. I traveled to Mississippi to the reserve there, and one of the Choctaw women asked me in our language if she was white. I said no, she is sicilian and Irish. I got an approving "Oh!" instead of a disapproving "Oh." To me that just illustrates the stupidity of judging a person by the color of their skin. I believe that we need to look what is in their hearts than the color of their skin.
In the practice of our spirituality, I have heard through the Lakota people that if you aren't of their blood, there are some ceremonies that non-Lakotas won't be able to perform. So does that mean the Creator is a racist? Is that also to imply that the white people are a mistake of the Creator?
When my wife first met me, she did not know that I was a ceremonial leader, mainly because I didn't tell her. I wanted to be known just for who I am, not because of my "stature" or as an activist/warrior, or whatever people perceived me as. I am just Ben, but I am stuck with being a Chief. And I respect that honor so much that I have paid for it through enduring the jealousies and enviousness of others. But the people whom I have met and worked with and helped have respected me. As a Chief, there is responsibilities that has fallen upon my wife, and she is terrified of failing and disappointing me and other Elders and leaders. But she is learning. And she is asking other Native women for help so that she can fulfill her responsibilities. She doesn't relish being the Chief's wife. She would rather be Ben's wife and not have to deal with the rest.
She is not an Annette Claypoole, but it seems your presumption placed her in that category, and I feel that is quite unfair. No one has known her to be a groupie of any kind and I have been the first Native man she has had a relationship with.
I had really hoped that there would have been more intelligent discussion on this ng than what I have seen. I can totally ignore the immature and childish cooments I have seen here, and I sometimes wonder why I waste any time. I really wanted to see a place where discussions could be held. And opposing viewpoints could be discussed to show each other something we are over looking.
Frosty has been one of the few who can stay on point and elaborate on any topic, without falling into bs. I have utmost respect for his presence on this ng. Which is the reason, I have began a new topic since it was not germane to his original topic.
I wonder if all the people on this group were to sit and appear before each other, with Elders present, minus barry and dirt clod, etc., if each of those people would behave in the same way they do on this group. I actually doubt it. Anonymity behind a keyboard gives some people the courage to speak in a way they wouldn't to a person face. It is a cowardly antic like writing on an elementary bathroom wall.
So maybe Monica you would like to give me a call so that we can talk about what happened here? I would be more than happy to talk with you over the phone. Just email me and make arrangments to talk with us. I do believe we will come to a better understanding at least through verbal communication. I've been in touch with one of Arlo's cousins. A Lakota who calls me brother and my wife sister, about the information you have shared about Arlo's situation.
It is a small world after all, and we should all be careful about the hurtful things we say to one another, regardless of the circumstances.
In Unity,
Ben Carnes
Here's Ben Carnes, Chief of the Choctaw, rebuking Monica's anti-white racism:
Ben Carnes is NOT the chief of the Choctaw,...
... and I don't know why you are trying to drag his name into this thread.
But again the purpose of this group is to expose frauds, nothing else. If you have issues with someones viewpoints then go express yourself on alt.native or indianz.com where catfights are the norm and stop wasting our time here with your personal vendettas and agendas
And now you are starting in on David Seals...
Why?
Because this Welsh/Irish white guy
In the "Native American Authors Project" he's billed as a "Huron novelist, publisher (Sky and Sage Books), freelance journalist, playwright, and documentary video producer." The movie Powwow Highway was "Based on the 1979 novel by David Seals, a member of the American Indian Movement (AIM) and the Cheyenne Nation,...."
And the New York Times review of Powwow Highway was titled "A Cheyenne Mystic Who Transmutes Bitterness".
Bingo. Spread across the world, a Native American author's own view of Native American spirituality. How authentic can you get? People read the book or saw the movie or both, and thought they were getting the real thing, just like... oh, say,... from Carlos Castaneda or Lynn Andrews! And how true that was.
Isn't that spiritual fraud?
Powwow Highway (1989)You sound like you have never seen it.... It's a good movie.
March 24, 1989
Review/Film; A Cheyenne Mystic Who Transmutes Bitterness
By Janet Maslin
Published: March 24, 1989
LEAD: The scene-stealing figure in ''Powwow Highway,'' a road movie populated by Cheyenne Indian characters in the vicinity of Lame Deer, Mont., is a sweetly mystical giant named Philbert Bono (Gary Farmer). Philbert is notable for his tremendous appetite, his unflappably even keel, and his determination to find some kind of spiritual core in contemporary American Indian life.
We are disgusted that our mother's name and tragedy continues to be exploited in this way, and in the name of decency we ask this individual and others so inclined to cease and desist. As Anna Mae's next of kin, we hereby inform Seals and those responsible for this, that they do not have permission to use our mother's name.(con...)
I continue to be disgusted by Seals and others like him whose morbid fascination with my mother's murder debases all that she lived and died for, and attempts to reduce her suffering, and ours, to the level of a sick hobby or Internet spectator sport.
I'm not really comfortable bringing the name of a murdered Native rights activist into this.
I agree that if the information Seals is putting out there is fabricated, his using this is extremely disrespectful and offensive.
/.../ Assuming your link actually goes to a statement made by this womans daughter, I am inclined to believe the daughters probably know what is fact and what is fiction - and from the link you posted they appear to be clearly saying Seals information is fabricated.
http://indigenouswomenforjustice.org/seals.html (http://indigenouswomenforjustice.org/seals.html)QuoteWe are disgusted that our mother's name and tragedy continues to be exploited in this way, and in the name of decency we ask this individual and others so inclined to cease and desist. As Anna Mae's next of kin, we hereby inform Seals and those responsible for this, that they do not have permission to use our mother's name.(con...)QuoteI continue to be disgusted by Seals and others like him whose morbid fascination with my mother's murder debases all that she lived and died for, and attempts to reduce her suffering, and ours, to the level of a sick hobby or Internet spectator sport.
I agree it is really offensive for anyone to use this womans name to make obviously incorrect or frivoulous accusations to further their own petty personal ambitions.
/.../
Did you have the families explicit permission to post these accusations?
That website, <http://indigenouswomenforjustice.org/seals.html>?
They posted it; I only linked to it.
My own text? That's my own responsibility. I've never claimed any authority.
I've never claimed any authority.
CetanQuoteBut again the purpose of this group is to expose frauds, nothing else. If you have issues with someones viewpoints then go express yourself on alt.native or indianz.com where catfights are the norm and stop wasting our time here with your personal vendettas and agendas
That about sums up my own take on this... And it's sad to see people who may have some legitimate concerns damage their own credibilty by getting into a mud fight.
I should explain that Betsy Ashby is only listed in NAFPS because she spreads so many wierd stories about NAFPS this needed to be addressed.
Betsy Ashby seems to enjoy setting up situations where she encourages Native people who are feeling overwhelmed at being repeatedly invaded to attack mixed blood people who are not causeing any substantial problems. She does this by repeatedly incorrectly identifying these mixed bloods as White and faux Indians and their Native friends as the lap dogs of Whites, and manipulating Native peoples justified anger to target relatively harmless people.
If you look carefully at the reasons Betsy has given for going after "faux Indians ", you will see her excuses are full of contradictions .
Below is a link to the enemies of NAFPS thread where her contradictory behavior is discussed in a number of posts.
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1234.0
Betsy Ashby has a talent for selecting the facts that support the point she wants to make, inventing a few things that aren't fact at all, and leaving out everything that doesn't support the story she wants people to believe .
What I find most disturbing about Betsy is she rarely or never goes after a "pure blood" White person who is using Native ceremonies or culture. Betsy's targets are almost always mixed blood people and their NDN friends.
It seems Betsy feeds on hatred and a sense of power and being connected through causing pain. Besides being wrong and unfair, I don't think Betsy's target of annihilating the people she wrongly identifies as Faux Indians is achievable , and the only thing she is likely to achieve is creating more bad feelings and resentment.
I also don't like to see innocent people harrasssed, but this often happens in cyberspace. NAFPS doesn't usually list people just because they are online bullies, and people are usually discouraged from trying to get this message board involved in retaliating or trying to sort out who did what to who first.
Generally NAFPS only discusses people who claim some sort of position of ceremonial leadership or political authority, which involves public trust which they may not be entitled to.
It seems you are just using Betsy's questionable behavior , and the fact that there is some discussion of Betsy's tactics here, as an excuse to bring your fight with Monica over here .
I've been reading a bit over on the alt.native site and I see both of you sometimes expressing yourself in needlessly inflamatory ways that hurt whatever legitmate point you may have been trying to make..... And to be honest, I have seen you make some seemingly unfounded accusations which go way beyond bitchy and trivial...
And now you are starting in on David Seals...
Why?
It seemed you were hoping to show that Betsy Ashby's definition of who is a "faux Indian" is flawed, using David Seals as an example of an unenrolled person of some Native descent , who has contributed to the Native community and who Monica considers a friend . That seems fair enough and a reasonable thing to do. However, if that was your intention , why are you now trying to get NAFPS interested in the guy as a "faux Indian"?
Interesting, you edited out some of my comments in what you quoted...
Some links and quotes were provided in <http://tinyurl.com/daveseals-faux-indian (http://tinyurl.com/daveseals-faux-indian)>, but NOTE: that's addressed to alt.native regulars who deal with Dave Seals all the time and are familiar with his posts. It is not a self-contained compendium of his deceptions and evasions and all the "evidence" thereof. You can read around the newsgroup for the rest, if interested.(bolding added)
Sorry, lady, I haven't heard you folks complaining any about Dave and Monica's mud-slinging, using their (respectively) "Big Name Native American Author" status and "Elder" status as platforms to dump on "lesser" folks.
you are the one who has come over here wanting to get people here involved in taking your side in your disputes
that you would use this woman's murder as a tool for your petty harrassment and retaliation is completely reprehensible to me.
Quote from: oldwifetaleUm, monica... you are the one who dragged alt.native business 'outside'. But how do you really think this makes *you* look? These things you are posting to 'get back' at Sizzle contain words that strongly apply to your own 'morbid fascination' with Anna Mae's death.
It reminds me of the phrase... cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Are you trying another tactic to scare me away from the Anna Mae story daisy mae? Won't work.
Well said Cetan, if get invovled in she said he said they said it ends without getting to the truth.
It has happen in the past were people bring information from another board here to fight and it always end
in just that he said she said.
Just post the evidence and we will research it
...that you would use this woman's murder as a tool for your petty harrassment and retaliation...
Well said Cetan, if get invovled in she said he said they said it ends without getting to the truth.
It has happen in the past were people bring information from another board here to fight and it always end
in just that he said she said.
Just post the evidence and we will research it
With due respect, earth7, that has not been my experience here.
For instance, in sourced quotes at the link I posted, <http://tinyurl.com.daveseals-faux-indian (http://tinyurl.com.daveseals-faux-indian)>, or which you can find by Googling, "Native American author" Seals is variously identified as Huron or Cheyenne (not as "both" in any source), "Cheyenne" when his Cheyenne-character books came out, and "Huron" later on. Then gradually both tribal claims fade away; neither is in his current Wikipedia puff-piece entry. Yet he's still listed among "Native American authors".
No-one here has hinted at researching this oddity or the reason for the shift. (May I suggest the Cheyenne claim simply became untenable first? And then the 1990 Act made such lying-for-profit a federal crime?)
No-one is stopping you from researching the matter!
Don't pretend I'm holding you back by not posting the magic word on the proper forum.
Fire when ready, Gridley!
the link you posted doesnt work
and quite honestly I have no problems with David Seals
and you are the first person here who has questioned him
ABDUCTION AT ROSWELL by David Seals
Journal of Frontier Science: ABDUCTION AT ROSWELL by David Seals
"By the 90s, David was ready to go back to the 40s before he was born, thanks to decades of research, ceremonies with Indians, sessions with psychics, and memories of many hours of conversations with his mother and father. He was confident he had found a realistic way to remember and reconstruct what really happened at Roswell, and, even more challenging, to see it from the point of view of the Enemies!"
What is so wrong with Monica's posts - unless you dont believe the Feds had anything to do with Anna Mae's murder. Trying to blame the murder on AIM has been one of the fed's tactics since way back, read the history on Cointelpro, they have been trying to discredit AIM since back in the day. Do you believe the Feds now?
Yes, Philbert Bono's just a "mystic" character by David Seals. And Don Juan was just a "mystic" character by Carlos Castaneda -- and Agnes Whistling Elk et alia were just "mystic" characters by Lynn Andrews -- and those were popular too, Moma Porcupine, so where's the harm, really, eh? You have no problem with any of them?
David Seals
Phoenix Native American Shamanism Examiner
The FBI was definitely responsible for Anna Mae's death, regardless of who pulled the trigger. Whether an agent committed the murder or a member of AIM, the FBI is to blame. I don't know who did it. I do know that the FBI had created an environment of doubt, fear, mistrust, and paranoia thru their cointelpro operations. THE FBI is the domestic version of the CIA. Their actions at home, especially during the 70's, are no different than the CIA's actions around the world. They create problems where none exist and intensify existing problems. It's time the FBI was held accountable.
The FBI was definitely responsible for Anna Mae's death, regardless of who pulled the trigger. Whether an agent committed the murder or a member of AIM, the FBI is to blame. I don't know who did it. I do know that the FBI had created an environment of doubt, fear, mistrust, and paranoia thru their cointelpro operations. THE FBI is the domestic version of the CIA. Their actions at home, especially during the 70's, are no different than the CIA's actions around the world. They create problems where none exist and intensify existing problems. It's time the FBI was held accountable.
I know just what you mean, bls926 ! Why, I am SO stressed out by the environment of doubt, fear, mistrust, and paranoia right here on this very thread that there's no knowing what *I* may do next! Smash a store window, or pee on a cop, or bite a dog, or something! And when they arrest me, I'll tell them, "NAFPS is to blame!" So pack a little night bag and mark your lawyer's number on your forearm, and be ready to go quietly when they come to your door, okay? And remember these words: "DON'T TAZE ME, BRO!"
You came here announcing your tussle with Betsy Ashby brought you here.
Joining you at Debbie's invitation, after tussling with Betsy Ashby in the Usenet newsgroup alt.native for a while.(Post hoc est non propter hoc.)
Your concerns about Ashby seem to have been shelved almost immediately and you moved onto trying to discredit Monica.
Then you began trying to discredit Monica's friend Seals, but you don't seem concerned enough about him somehow violating public trust or misrepresenting Native people to actually start a thread on him.
Apparently your interest in Seals only continues as long as it takes to establish that he is an odd ball, or possibly of extraterrestrial descent, as now Seals is being used to once again try and discredit Monica by pointing out her questionable judgment in choosing friends.
And you seem real interested in using this to try and discredit Monica's posts containing information skeptical of the FBI involvement in Anna Mae's murder. You keep coming back to that .
Why ?
The only sizzle I smell here is bacon, oink oink
Yes, Superdog, that's a "comedy"... and supposedly this isn't:
<http://www.examiner.com/x-7919-Phoenix-Native-American-Shamanism-Examiner (http://www.examiner.com/x-7919-Phoenix-Native-American-Shamanism-Examiner)>QuoteDavid Seals
Phoenix Native American Shamanism Examiner
Are we all caught up now?
This is my self-introduction thread, so I shared as FYI the sorts of things I've been writing. Poems and "object-library"-type Usenet tidbits.
Why are you here?
You seem real interested in using this to try and discredit Monica's posts containing information skeptical of the FBI involvement in Anna Mae's murder. You keep coming back to that .
Why ?
Who's interests do you imagine you are serving here ?
Monica Charles sets the stage for the Grand FBI Conspiracy, yes... and then accuses the people she dislikes on the newsgroup of being part of that conspiracy.
I wasn't able to do a thorough check of all the posts over at alt.native but it looks like Sizzle showed up there as a regular poster a couple weeks before Betsy Ashby AKA Guardian ( last mid May early June ) . Sizzle seems to spend most of their time posting on pagan and wiccan message boards ,and I don't see where they seem to have much interest in anything else ... At least not under that user name. Probably just my over suspicious mind at work, but I gotta wonder just what the connection is between Sizzle and Betsy ....(bolding added)
Sizzle, this is just my own opinion , but if you want to change peoples personalities,...
If you just want to retaliate for some personal injury, that probably isn't going to be welcome here.
If you want to lay out some evidence about how someone might be seriously misleading the public in some way, it seems the way to do this would be to start a thread.
I see Monic is recomending the book THE UNQUIET GRAVE by Steve Hendricks.
There is also a link hear to what sounds like a report of the court case against Arlo Looking Cloud.
http://www.grahamdefense.org/trial1.htm
If this is accurate and not altered, ...
This wouldn't be the first time i have seen people involved in what happened at Wounded Knee say things that seem to defy logic. I have to wonder if some people don't feel safe to tell the truth.
I still don't understand why this information is here on NAFPS
I still don't understand why this information is here on NAFPS
So do what does an author have to do with selling ceremonies
the difference is Casteneda and Lynn Andrews tried to claim their characters were real people and their experiences actually happened; Powwow highway is a comedy film and Philbert is not presented as someone who exists in real life, he is only a character in a movie. Go rent the movie and watch it before you start throwing accusations about it - you are only making yourself look more ignorant every time you postI guess sizzle still thinks Powwow Highway is a documentary
I guess sizzle still thinks Powwow Highway is a documentary
I guess sizzle still thinks Powwow Highway is a documentary
No, but David Seals cites it in his credentials to write about real shamanism as the "Native American Shamanism Examiner": "His novel The Powwow Highway, which George Harrison made into a feature film of the same name, follows the modern adventures of a shaman from Montana to New Mexico." (http://www.examiner.com/x-7919-Phoenix-Native-American-Shamanism-Examiner#fragment-2)
So if you're saying he's only a comic novelist and doesn't claim any more.... Wrong.
You're also leaving out the part of the blurb where it's written that he has Huron-Cheyenne heritage...a claim you made earlier that he always puts Huron or Cheyenne but "NEVER" both seems to have been forgotten.
For instance, in sourced quotes at the link I posted, <http://tinyurl.com/daveseals-faux-indian (http://tinyurl.com/daveseals-faux-indian)>, or which you can find by Googling, "Native American author" Seals is variously identified as Huron or Cheyenne (not as "both" in any source), "Cheyenne" when his Cheyenne-character books came out, and "Huron" later on.
The really big excuse for not even looking at him is that he's not NAFPS's concern at all unless his authorship veers from comedy novels into shamanism, right?
<http://www.examiner.com/x-7919-Phoenix-Native-American-Shamanism-Examiner (http://www.examiner.com/x-7919-Phoenix-Native-American-Shamanism-Examiner)>
David Seals
Phoenix Native American Shamanism Examiner
Next excuse...?
You're also leaving out the part of the blurb where it's written that he has Huron-Cheyenne heritage...a claim you made earlier that he always puts Huron or Cheyenne but "NEVER" both seems to have been forgotten.
You put "NEVER" in quote marks, as if that's a direct quote.
If you're going to imply dishonesty, why use false quotation to do it?
I think she just want to argue
maybe she thinks this site is like a mesage or chat board where they exchange
angry words between each other.
The only sizzle I smell here is bacon, oink oink
What tribal nation are you from or not?
Honestly....a "My bio" blurb written in the third person doesn't really prove that he's claiming anything.
Also the title "Native American Shamanism Examiner" is also kind of dubious proof of anything.
Honestly....a "My bio" blurb written in the third person doesn't really prove that he's claiming anything.
Then who do you think wrote "My Bio"? Third-person is standard format.QuoteAlso the title "Native American Shamanism Examiner" is also kind of dubious proof of anything.
His sequel Sweet Medicine is flacked with the blurb: "A novel of modern confrontation between Indians and Anglos, by the Native American author of The Powwow Highway". (Google Search: <http://tinyurl.com/daveseals-faux-na-author (http://tinyurl.com/daveseals-faux-na-author)>)
You think they snuck that through without his approval?
<http://www.ragbaby.com/magazine/19990618c.htm (http://www.ragbaby.com/magazine/19990618c.htm)>: The Peace Pipe in Powwow Highway
"Based on the 1979 novel by David Seals, a member of the American Indian Movement (AIM) and the Cheyenne Nation,...."
Who gave them that idea? Do you think they just made it up?
<http://www.ipl.org/div/natam/bin/browse.pl/A461 (http://www.ipl.org/div/natam/bin/browse.pl/A461)>: Native American Authors Project
"David Seals , 1947-
"Huron
"Davydd ap Saille (the spelling used by the author) is a talented Huron novelist, publisher (Sky and Sage Books), freelance journalist, playwright, and documentary video producer."
Who do you think provided them with all that info?
<http://www.coloradoaim.org/why.html (http://www.coloradoaim.org/why.html)> -- footnote # 11:
"As the noted Paiute poet/novelist Adrian C. Lewis put it in a letter to Churchill on Sept. 21, 1992 (copy on file), 'David Seals...now has a sequel to Pow Wow Highway out. Although he claims AIM connections, etc., he is really not an Indian. He's a new age weirdo and a terrible writer at that.'"
Despite all those claims, "David Seals...is really not an Indian."
So somebody's been telling a lot of lies, haven't they? Who?
What it boils down for me is that I don't care if he's enrolled somewhere or not, enrollment doesn't define a person's culture. [...] He gets it right when it comes to Indian humor, he writes articles that are very knowledgeable of his subjects. He's a little out there with the alien abduction stuff, but a person can make a healthy career out of that kind of writing...ask Whitley Strieber.
So again, (one more time) it seems this is more of a battle on a personal level between the two of you (in fact it's obvious).
People who post here don't usually target peoples claims to be of Native descent if this is the only questionable thing they are doing.
In fact, a Black Hills Alliance investigation of Seals was convened in 1982 after he "accidentally" bankrupted the organization's newspaper, Paha Sapa Report, by causing the wrong front page to be printed. He then wandered up the street to volunteer his services to the Leonard Peltier Defense Committee, located in Rapid City in those days, later disappearing with about $1500 in donations. Reemerging in Denver, he began his ongoing campaign to undermine the credibility of Churchill, Glenn Morris and Colorado AIM more generally, while writing his initially self published parody of the movement, Pow Wow Highway (made into a movie by ex Beatle George Harrison over the strenuous objections of the Northern Cheyenne).
First off, as has already been explained to you, as long as people aren't claiming a position of political leadership, [....]
The works of fiction you have cited in this thread , by David Seals, are works of fiction, and don't really involve "public trust". [....]
Books sold as fiction [....]
Books sold as fiction [....]
Writing a book marketed as fiction [....]
being an author of fictional books [....]
Or would you also go after authors like Tony Hillerman, who's books contain Navajo characters and a fictionalized Navajo culture?