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series of interviews with Paul Ghosthorse where Jan and Paul discuss the template of a Vision Quest Ceremony- what LightSong’s Telepathic Practicum is based upon

https://lightsong.libsyn.com/jan-interviews-paul-ghosthorse-a-sundance-intercessor

Jan Engels-Smith is a decades long devotee of Leonard Albert Mattern Jr/"Buck Ghosthorse". She does all the fraudulent ceremonies and uses what she's learned as source material for her own operation. She and Paul Sahayda/Ghosthorse say they are spiritual siblings. They are co-creating remixes of the various frauds.

The "Ghosthorse Family" fraud "Sungleska Oyate" continues. Remember that these frauds have stolen actual surnames and cultural terms.

Obituaries show that some members persist with this their entire lives. For instance this from 2022:

David participated in Native American Ceremonies with Sungleska Oyate

https://www.masoncounty.com/story/2022/01/20/in-memoriam/david-lee-ledbetter/650.html

I know this is the fraud group because he is white and is talking about WA state.

There are second generation members, a 2018 example here:

In 1992, I was a senior in high school and an activist. For the past year I had been spending my Friday nights learning about Lakota culture and history from an elder named Buck Ghosthorse.

https://www.culturesconnecting.com/post/2018/10/03/what-will-you-risk-for-justice

Like!

Continuing; I follow Hopi tribal rules, and only Identify as Moqui. I met a woman at a taco shop in Oregon and kinda overstepped and called her out as Hopi-Moqui, in a nice way.
She was shocked I could tell by observing her in a few short minutes, she vented a bit.
She had tried to join the tribe, but didn’t fit their membership rules somehow. She said So I guess I’m just a Mexican lol.
I always recommend Chicano literature to people on the search, even people of mixed blood from anywhere. The narrative really helps people understand things.
That are not politically correct to talk about.

Keeping on the topic,
Biophotons are more visible to the naked eye, when that eye is subjected to oculocutaneous albinism. My eyes are hazel, in the right light they glow green. People be tripping on that.
My grandma had a Gold Impala, I hope someday to have one myself. My aunt traded it for a firebird lol.
Sometime, I may do a dissertation on Skinwalkers. Utah is loaded with em.

wondering if you are native and of what tribe? i really not sure if non-natives......even tony hillerman.....know how to identify a skinwalker anymore than i can identify a kakaka or a windigo

back to the thought i didnt finish ....while the hopi may not be as private as maybe the jemez or picuris, they will not share their deepest spirituality with the white man....plain and simple

i was always told that "white brother/pahana" caca was just the imagination of a white man anyways

2021

LightSong School of 21st Century Shamanism

Jan interviews Paul Ghosthorse, a SunDance Intercessor.

This is the first in a series of interviews with Paul Ghosthorse, where Jan and Paul discuss the template of a Vision Quest- what LightSong’s Telepathic Practicum is based upon. This interview touches on traditional Lakota ways, sacred herbs, and plant medicine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs3r-31YmrU

YouTube transcript of his intro:

um i was born paul sahida my ancestors are are not native american
1:27
they're a i'm a full-blood rusin and they are a people from a country that no longer
1:34
exists in russia that kind of disappeared around the year 1900 my ancestors were
1:41
mongolian uh tartar kazakh of kazakh descent
1:46
and that moved into europe mixed in with the europeans in a place called
1:52
patho and when i was a young man i was
1:57
introduced to a man by the name of buck ghost horse who uh asked to
2:03
adopt me and he adopted me as his son his eldest son and asked me if i would
2:09
add my name to his which i did and so i became paul's sahaida ghost horse
2:16
and and so i was introduced to the so i was introduced to the lakota traditions when i was a young man

Paul Sahayda has Austrian heritage. Surnames such as Sahayda, Scabanich, Yusko who settled in Lackawanna, Pennsylvania around 1910. As far as I can see, none of his ancestors identified as Kazakhs.

This shift in identification is just another attempt to claim "shaman" for himself.

And Buck Ghosthorse/Leonard Albert Mattern Jr. was not Lakota. Surely Paul knows this. Buck changed his name legally on Oct 5, 1990, Paul changed his name Oct 16, 1990, both in Snohomish county, WA where the cult was based at the time.

Paul was 33 years old at the time of his name change. Buck did not legally adopt him. Paul was not adopted into anything actually Lakota. Buck was a fraud leader of a cult, Paul is the fraud leader of the continuing cult.

So Paul does a pretend disclaimer about his heritage but then continues with his usual "Lakota medicine man" act. He perpetuates the fraud of his "father".

Does anyone have any evidence of wrongdoing at all on Kreal? If not we should move this to Archives, or even delete it. It seems like this thread was started as part of a personal dispute.

so.....a female ward churchill?