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Etcetera / Re: Hopi and "Blue Star Prophecy"
« Last post by Mirror on February 10, 2025, 06:28:46 pm »
our hopi "cousins" may have some public dances as do we, but also like us the majority of pueblo religion is very private

as discussed here before, pueblo medicine, knowledge and prophecy would never have been divulged to a non-pueblo

but as usual the white world would rather believe another white man than a pueblo

on top of that....many whites have a problem with religious privacy, they cannot stand that we will never share many things with them so they make it it up as they go along

hell, i am pueblo and many things arent even meant for me to know

the arrogance of the pigmentally-challenged just cannot accept NO for an answer when it comes to matters of religious privacy......so take ANY info out there on hopi ways with the grain of salt

It’s funny the way you make jokes about pigment and salt. Let’s not forget UAP and how Chicano slang mirrors native language. Don’t take offense JD Aragon okay!l he doesn’t mean it.

Say hello’s to 5th world

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Etcetera / Re: Hopi and "Blue Star Prophecy"
« Last post by milehighsalute on February 10, 2025, 05:20:39 pm »
our hopi "cousins" may have some public dances as do we, but also like us the majority of pueblo religion is very private

as discussed here before, pueblo medicine, knowledge and prophecy would never have been divulged to a non-pueblo

but as usual the white world would rather believe another white man than a pueblo

on top of that....many whites have a problem with religious privacy, they cannot stand that we will never share many things with them so they make it it up as they go along

hell, i am pueblo and many things arent even meant for me to know

the arrogance of the pigmentally-challenged just cannot accept NO for an answer when it comes to matters of religious privacy......so take ANY info out there on hopi ways with the grain of salt
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Frauds / Re: Jane Ely
« Last post by educatedindian on February 10, 2025, 02:25:45 am »
I received some information about her. It's confirmed her claimed "degrees" aren't real. There's no actual degree in counseling or psychology, just two from the more notorious degree mills.

The first fake degree is from Wisdom University. There's another by the same name, now closed by the Albanian govt. There's also a very cheap online Bible college. This one is attached to "Ubiquity University," a Nuage outfit. WU is their "graduate program." Their website is down for several years. It shows off a lot of spiritual tourism to retreats in Mexico, France, Italy.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160211185437/http://wisdomuniversity.org/

Ubiquity is described here.
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https://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/the-real-story-behind-danny-sheehan-and-those-15000-ufo-phd-degrees
Ubiquity University is indeed a dubiously accredited “university” charging students between $5,000 and $16,500 for advanced “degrees” in “wisdom studies,” various mystical and pseudoscientific ideas, and “extraterrestrial studies.”
 
If you are budget-conscious, you can opt for the less-rigorous certificate program in extraterrestrial studies, which requires only eight “micro courses” and an essay. (Dunning wrongly claims the certificate as the PhD program.) Frankly, I’m not sure how much more non-evidence one can learn in a full UFO PhD program vs. a certificate program. Any multiple of zero is still zero.
 
As Brian Dunning noted, an important problem with Ubiquity University is that it claims to be “a registered university authorized to award academic degrees” when it is not regionally accredited by an organization recognized by the Department of Education. (Similar problems under New York State law doomed the deceptively named Trump University.)
 
Ubiquity University claims to have awarded more than 300 “degrees,” meaning that the school may have raked in more than $4 million for their worthless diplomas. That’s not all that impressive, since the school was founded by Matthew Fox under another name in 1995 and has been actively recruiting students in its current form since 2012.
 
In the United States, the government does not regulate universities. However, the U.S. Department of Education recognizes several regional accrediting organizations that evaluate schools and certify that they meet generally recognized academic standards. Schools thus accredited issue degrees that are considered fully accredited, or, for lack of a better word, “real.” Like several Bible schools and scam colleges, Ubiquity University has a lengthy page explaining why they have rejected the regional accreditation process, claiming that it is a tool of oppression that suppresses alternative ways of knowing. Ubiquity goes further, creating its own accreditation body unrecognized by the Department of Education to issue its own “accreditation.”

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The second is from Edenvale University. All of Google's top links are about its fraudulent nature.
https://hedd.ac.uk/viewInstitution?id=479
"This provider does not award recognised UK degrees."

https://hjackson.org/2005/03/07/edenvale_university_scam/
"Edenvale University Scam
The university above is completely fictitious. They have copied Leeds Uni. Compare the following 2 sites
Leeds University
http://www.edenvaleuniversity.net/
They have even left references in the source code of the page to Leeds university. They are selling qualifications. It would appear that some people are using them."

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https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?threads/its-official-edenvale-university-is-part-of-the-udp-scam.17860/
It is an educational credential provider
- The degree parchment looks like a UCLA testamur
- You can 'legally' call yourself doctor
- You receive the parchment, transcript of results, course material (to prove you did the 'course') and full verification service'
- I would be fully registered on the 'university's' database with fax, email, mailing address for employers to 'verify'
- I have 1 year to change date of graduation, field and major
- Accredited by the 'World Wide Distance Learning Council' which is (drumroll) an International Organisation (and I am supposed to be impressed by THAT??

Now to money:

- Intial quote was $US1,950 for the full package
- I told him it was too expensive - what was his best price?
- He told me he would speak to his 'supervisor' and get back to me (hand goes over phone and pretends to talk to someone)
- 'Best price' was $US600.00, which I had to pay there and then and promise never to tell anyone else about the deal
- I said it was still too expensive. I was thinking in the range of US$400.00
-'Oh no, we can't do it for that price', he stated
- 'Well, that's my budget', I said
- 'Ok', he replied, 'US$500.00 and that is the final offer.
- 'Its tempting', I said, 'But really I cannot pay more than $US400.00'
- There was silence, he was obviously mulling it through his mind, then he hung up on me!"

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Etcetera / Re: Encountering Internet Exploiters Of American Indian Spirituality
« Last post by Sparks on February 10, 2025, 01:46:04 am »
Hi earth7, I remember you.

Alas, too late, earth7 passed away almost four years ago. Read this topic from April, 2021:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=5521.0 [Ladonna Allard Passed On]
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Comedy Channel / Re: Merciless Indian Savages
« Last post by Mirror on February 09, 2025, 07:14:07 pm »
Glad I printed this when I did.

Who is/are the author(s), and what is the title of the study (article)?

My intention was to link the original this morning, I googled “3,344 Indian students”
And got some hits, try there. I was able to use a picture of it and copied the picture text. It’s all I got.
It was an old paper, and the hits I got showed the og in the preview. It’s probably behind paywall?
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Comedy Channel / Re: Merciless Indian Savages
« Last post by Sparks on February 09, 2025, 06:26:48 pm »
Glad I printed this when I did.

Who is/are the author(s), and what is the title of the study (article)?
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Comedy Channel / Re: Merciless Indian Savages
« Last post by Mirror on February 09, 2025, 05:51:41 pm »
Glad I printed this when I did.

The study determined if a significant difference was demonstrated between American Indians and Caucasians on visual perception and recall tasks associated with cognitive function. It was hypothesized that a significant difference existed between scores obtained by Indian children enrolled in reservation schools and that of Caucasian children enrolled in public schools of adjacent non-reservation urban communities, and between children from the different Indian tribes in scores obtained using the Visual Recall Ability Indicator. Any demonstrated difference was related to the learning styles of Indian children as they applied to implications for education of culturally different Indian children attending Indian schools.
Utilizing the Visual Recall Ability Indicator, data were collected from 3,344 Indian students (ages 8-16) drawn from 18 reservation schools of the Navajo, Hopi, and Jicarilla Apache tribes, and from 797 Caucasian students drawn from 9 schools in the urban communities adjacent to the reservations (Farmington and Grants, New Mexico and Page, Arizona).
Among the findings were that Indian boys and girls surpassed Caucasian boys and girls, and the Hopi students exceeded the performance of the Navajos and Apaches at the .05 level of confidence. The practical significance of the results was that the Indian sample population differs significantly from the Caucasian sample population in the basic cognitive strengths each population brings to formal schooling even though there may be differences in performance levels among the tribal groups tested. (Author/NQ
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Member Introductions / Re: Mirror introduction
« Last post by Mirror on February 09, 2025, 05:41:03 pm »
Quote; Dr. Oscar Loew chemist to Wheelers surveying expedition as printed in Popular Science Monthly volume 5 1874, ln appearance the Moquis resembles the Caucasian rather than the Mongolian race /quote
If anyone wants me to explain how genetics works to achieve this, or how most natives prior to contact had similar features I’d be happy to.
Wheeler’s survey wasn’t a great start in thr eyes of the government, wheeler had married a daughter of the chief and brought her back to Washington DC. His testimony to congressional hearings is why they were declared non-Indian. It was later with a different leadership that the Buffalo Soldiers were brought in to subdue the tribe enough for religious leaders to finish the job.
Women and children were left to fend for themselves after the men were hauled off to Alcatraz.
This space in the story will be left blank because of my respect for the current tribe residents in my home.
The released moqui prisoners filtered around the San Francisco Bay Area and were cared for by my grandmother’s family, who had left Arizona to meet them on their release.
More censored story.
This is all I will say about this chapter in Hopi History
They left instructions for me, and I’m working diligently to fulfill them.
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Etcetera / Re: Recovering from a destructive group
« Last post by Mirror on February 09, 2025, 06:41:41 am »
I have to admit I never believed in Jesus it was definitely a stockroom syndrome thing, but you know what? They are my greatest allies, totally some of those people are nuts about him. And that okay.
I was sent a Blue and Yellow rattlesnake to protect me. An eagle dancer to welcome me. It was a bit awkward at first. But I love my people. And they know it. See you soon!
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Frauds / Re: NAFPS takes pride in being called "Enemy"
« Last post by Mirror on February 09, 2025, 06:31:07 am »
Awww, you make funny jokes.  ::)
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