TMA: Do you know how many generations?
BTT: I really don't know how many generations, but I do know that my mother is a retired shielder??
from the Mescalero Apache tradition, and her mother also.
I remember learning from elders when I was very, very young and all the beautiful experiences I saw with them.
I found that to be very intriguing,
how they would heal people,
how they'd sit in council and discuss things
and do communal work.
When we went to different tribes that were not Apache,
I found that they had very significant core life behaviors that we did.
I thought, "Oh, they're doing the same things that we're doing," and
I enjoyed the experience very much.
This is from an interview with Lozen's sister Billie, I've laid it out so it is easier to see each piece.
Billie looks to be saying that she doesn't know her heritage in depth.
She claims this heritage through her mother and maternal grandmother.
She claims they are "retired shielders".
To me as an outsider, she sounds like another mostly outsider. In terms of word choices and observations.
She says she found that "different tribes" "were doing the same things that we're doing" - sounds like the usual Nuage claim that everything is universal and the same and therefore up for grabs.
So far haven't found the family surname.