Shelia, I have no idea what the purpose of that site is, it looks more like a chat room. Little of what I have seen is what I call fluffy and silly. I do know I went and look when this first started and looked at their application. It listed the Nations, then stated check one. Went on to say if you do not have one, pick one. Well, that sent up red flags for me. I would have never joined to begin with. I could only guess. It's not a question of not believing, it's a question of are they frauds, I have never seen any real proof from files that they are expoiting people for money. They are not a 501c3. It looks like a business run by people fron India. But everyone keeps calling each other liars, and it is he said or she said against she said. I have a very good idea of what it is. Like many of the Internet groups, it starts well, then is taken over. There is a lot of disrespect on the Internet, and I see more and more of it, I not sure why. Now, if someone can give some concrete proof of exploitation, or misuse of Spirituality would be helpful. But people just can sit around and call each other liars without some concrete. Some people are just jerks, not what I call a true fraud. I don't disbelieve anyone, it's just not going anywere. I don't know these people's motives for trying to do a NDN group. It's not illegal to charge fees it they are asking the group to pay for the server. Are they making a profit? Are they paying taxes? Is this just another Internet Cultural Heritage group with a lot of non-Ndns? Can you prove they are ripping people off? Concrete information is needed. Thanks.