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Offline arilei

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Traditional Native Survival and Cultural Center
« on: January 05, 2008, 03:18:40 pm »
Can anyone give some information about this group?

The website is at http://www.tnscc.com/

Traditional Native Survival and Cultural Center Inc.

If you already have this information then I am not understanding how to operate the Search on this site, sorry for the new thread.

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Re: Traditional Native Survival and Cultural Center
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2008, 04:57:26 pm »
Heard of them. They are in East Tennessee for a few years.  They were more or less listed as a non-profit social service group. Established to teach and maintain Ndn cultures. Not just one. The woman that ran it Tsolagiu RuizRazo is known as a medium and psychic. Talks to dead people. Talks about healing, but it is very vague. Sends spirits to people's houses to heal them. And of course, stress management. I don't think I would go.

Offline educatedindian

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Re: Traditional Native Survival and Cultural Center
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2008, 05:10:05 pm »
Just hit the search button near the top.

This is the first I've heard of this group. On the surface they look to be a cultural heritage group. But when you go to their board of directors, there's afew things.

http://www.tnscc.com/board.html

Listing your clan and calling yourself an elder makes me wonder.

And some of those "elders" learned from dubious sources, or make dubious claims.
http://www.tnscc.com/bios/rahkweeskeh.html
"Mad Bear Anderson with Rakweeskeh in 1984.
Mad Bear was a mentor and took Rahkeh under his wing and was an Uncle to him in the Traditional way. He groomed and directed Rahkeh from 1976 through 1985."

Anderson was an imposter who died from alcoholism.

http://www.tnscc.com/bios/tsolagiu.html
"Tsolagiu RuizRazo in May of 2001, at the reception and
book signing to celebrate her book,"Spirit Of The White Wolf Woman".
Born in Missouri, Toni is Wolf Clan of the Cherokee Nation. Her ancestral roots extend throughout the states of Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia and Arkansas....She was fortunate to work with and help many different peoples from many different backgrounds and cultures....
Toni discovered her special gifts at the age of seven when she was attending Mass and heard voices and sounds of thunder. She fainted and when she woke up later, she found herself on the floor. Following this event, she had other experiences such as traveling to the Sky World as well as to unknown dimensions and communicating with spirits, including people who had died years before."

http://www.tnscc.com/bios/tanawaki.html
"Tanawaki is Cherokee, Wolf Clan. She was born in Hartford, CT in 1968 and raised in a small town called Harwinton, CT. With her mother, Tsolagiu, being a heavily gifted woman, Tanawaki learned about spirit at a very early age....Toward the middle of 1990 Tanawaki traveled with Bruce Elijah, of the Oneida Nation, Canadian side, who also taught her many things about the Native culture and how she should be as a native woman.  While traveling and learning with Bruce Elijah she stayed on the Oneida Territory, in Southwold, Canada and visited Ganasadage in Quebec, Canada at a Youth and Elders Meeting where she met many “First NationsÂ??? people and learned many things.  She stayed in Oneida (Canadian Side) for 1 ½ months."

Living with Oneidas for a month and a half to learn Cherokee culture?

The site seems to be mostly people of possible or distant Cherokee ancestry who learned from the several Six Nations members of the group. Many of them do seem to have done good work.

What was it about the group that concerned you?

Offline educatedindian

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Re: Traditional Native Survival and Cultural Center
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2008, 05:38:07 pm »
Ruizrazo is all over the net, promoting her books and workshops.

Promoted by Manataka.
http://www.manataka.org/page35.html

With several of her own websites.
http://www.tsolagiu.com/
" TOMORROW'S CHILDREN
A Cherokee Elder's Guide To Parenting
Tsolagiu M.A. RuizRazo
...Included are ceremonies and techniques for strengthening your child physically, emotionally, and spiritually, in preparation for pioneering a better future. Tsolagiu M.A. RuizRazo, a Cherokee Wolf Clan elder, lives in New Tazewell, Tennessee...she travels widely throughout the Western world teaching indigenous wisdom."

http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Ruizrazo_Tsolagiu_624729808.aspx
"Tsolagiu (Toni) RuizRazo Tsolagiu (Toni) M.A. RuizRazo is a Cherokee Elder and healer who has worked with many different people from many different backgrounds and cultures. She is a past Vice President of the Catholic Womens Christian Association, an administration board member for the Eli Whitney Technical School in Torrington, CT, and has developed numerous performing arts programs for children and adults. She is a published author of two books on Native American cultural teachings. She is also President of TMAR, Inc., a personal development and consulting firm that works cross culturally with all peoples."

http://www.whitewolfwoman.com/
"TMAR Human Development & Stress Release, Inc.;
Workshops & other Programs
Where To Send Donations for TNSCC
Our Products and Services
TMAR Human Development & Stress Release, Inc.; Workshops & other Programs
Past Events for TMAR Human Development & Stress Release, Inc.
Copyright 2001 -2003
© White Wolf Woman.com"

There's also a scan of flyers they sent out billing themselves as "Traditional Native Elders Present...Energy Work...Reflexology...Clearing...Personal Readings"
Most of the workshops are 60 bucks, one is 85.


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Re: Traditional Native Survival and Cultural Center
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2008, 07:42:19 pm »
not listed with nonprofit information

they payed for this sight

Offline dabosijigwokush

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Re: Traditional Native Survival and Cultural Center
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2008, 07:45:14 pm »
web page opened on may 22 2004