William Graywolf Atkins

[William_Graywolf]

I was trying to find someone who could tell me more about the fake group Manataka and was led here by several people.  
I'm Cherokee not enrolled.  My grandfather was.  I'm full blood.  My pop refused to enroll and I followed his way.  I'm from Whittier NC but now reside in Skipwith, VA.  I have made many friends in VA and am concerned with this Manataka group which is gathering true natives into its group.  They are targeting the Virginia tribes among other groups.  
My pop had a lot to say about shamans which do not exist and the use of money they charge.

[debbieredbear]

Hi William,

There might be something in the archives because I know this subject has come up before. If not, there are some people here that are familiar with that group.

[educatedindian]

K. Wesho Bauer/Little Feather Spirit probably knows the most about them of anyone here. She lives in Arkansas not too far from them. You could IM her through the board, or you could contact her at www.littlefeatherspirit.com.

We did have some discussions about them in previous versions of NAFPS, but they haven't been reposted yet.

Here's some links about them.
http://users.pandora.be/gohiyuhi/frauds/frd0024b.htm
http://users.pandora.be/gohiyuhi/frauds/frd0052.htm

Using google searchs, 115 Nuage sites and 90 shamanism sites link to them.

Manataka preaching to pagans.
http://groups.msn.com/texarkanaareapagansandwitches/sacredwomen.msnw

Being promoted by Prophecy Keepers, the biggest Nuage site out there, and their words about "Rainbow Women".
http://www.burlingtonnews.net/prophecykeepersshow.html

Their promoting a Nuage fraud in Latin America who claims UFOs are coming.
http://www.manataka.org/page260.html

One of their members, Jim Ewing, is a white would be shaman who claims to be psychic and does "soul retrievals and energy healing".
http://healing.about.com/cs/findahealer/p/hhp_jimewing.htm
http://www.stormpages.com/reiki/biogr.htm

A Manataka "shamaness" named Magdala set up the "moondance dreamers" among some white Nuagers.
http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/indianspiritman/2002.13tue.html

A fraud calling himself Red Elk lists Manataka as friends.
http://www.redelk.net/website/links.html

And both Ewing and the leader of Manataka, Lee Moore or "Standing Bear", preach that there is a Nuage coming and fall for the phony "rainbow warriors" prophecy.
http://www.manataka.org/page44.html

[DIGOWELI]

Graywolf,

Are you Eastern or Western Band?    If you are Western and your Grandfather was enrolled then you are too as was your father since the rule for Western Band is that a direct descendant has to have lived in the Cherokee Nation (not in Arkansas) and signed up with the Dawes Commission during the years the rolls were open.   Many did not because the rolls signaled the dissolution of the Nation and they were against that.   Also some had much property and trading that for 180 acres was not a good deal and they didn't approve either.    But if your Grandfather signed those rolls then all you have to do is ask and they will send you material as a member.

You could ask Dr. Richard Allen on this site about that.   He works for the Cherokee government.   It would be good to give him work.    It might even help get that four million dollars in Congress for the schools.    Its not good for the Congress to see that the paid employees have too much time on their hands.   The Right wing is ever watchful.  

donada gohv'i

Ray Evans Harrell

[William_Graywolf]

Mr. Harrell,
I am like my pop.  We are Anowa by choice.  My grandfather was on the rolls in OK.  My pop was not.  I am not.  My pop had strong feelings about not wanting to belong to either.  He despised politics. He was strong in the old ways.  He passed February 2 this year age 95.  Atkins is my mother's name and Harnage is my father's.
I do not seek to be enrolled anywhere.  I know who and what I am. My family kept a long record of our heritage and that of one other family line.  
Thank you for the offer.  I am interested in making sure frauds like Manataka do not continue making fools of people.  
Osda svnoi
William Graywolf Atkins

[Vance Hawkins]

Howdy William,

Sorry to hear about your father. My dad passed away in 1992 at the age of 78, so I guess your dad was about 5 years older than mine.

There are several interesting topics here about the Cherokee and you might be interested in some of them.

Welcome

vance

[DIGOWELI]

Osiyo Graywolf,

Sounds like my history actually.   My greatgrandfather was in his mother's belly in 1838 when the army came to the door.   His father and 9 children escaped with his mother to Mississippi where they were taken in and given new names by an MD named Herndon Ray in Yallobusha County.  Both my father and I carry his name as an honor for what he did for our family.  

My greatgrandfather was born in Dr. Ray's house and grew up with him as Charles Jasper Reynolds.  When the Civil War came along Charles went to Arkansas to join the Cherokee regiment but that began the first conflict with the Cherokees of Oklahoma.   No problem, he joined an Arkansas regiment and fought with Watie and the others.   He was wounded and returned home but liked the Cherokees around Harrison Arkansas and moved there with his new wife.    At the time of the Dawes Rolls he had no inclination to support any connection to the US government or to the faction in Oklahoma that did.   He stayed put and eventually my Grandmother and her husband and children moved to Oklahoma to live amongst the Creeks.   My great uncle went with the Choctaw and was adopted by the then current Choctaw Chief because of his service to the people.   Wherever my family has been they have worked with our people and kept their own council.   Many of the family are not in support of me doing things like talking on this list but I believe the time has come for us to be in and take our place in the world as who we are.

oneh donada gohv'i

Ray Evans Harrell