Ceremonies In General
$100 minimum.
Weddings, Naming Ceremony, etc.
$200-350.
House Blessings and Spirit Removal
For a single office or small place, that is pretty clean, $100-200
seems at least reasonable. I don't know about others doing this
work, but I would estimate a reasonable range to be between $200-
500, if there are any spirits or dense energy involved, or it was a
place with many rooms, or a piece of land. If there is LOT of bad
energy or negative spirits, expect to offer more.
Demonic de-possession or houses where black magic has been
practiced...$500-$1,000 or more for really heavy work....pay all
travel expenses....
Quest
At the end of YOUR quest, it is appropriate to make another
offering, bigger than your offering to request ceremony....$400-
$1,200....
Did those numbers for quest scare you? ....What would you expect to
pay if it were advertised in a New Age Trade Magazine?"
As for the alleged San Juan Pueblo elder they studied under, take a
look. A Plains warbonnet?
http://www.shamanic.net/articles/pena.htmlIf he actually was from San Juan, they took terrible advantage of an
elderly and easily confused man.
And listen to the sterotyped racist nonsense coming out of Grigori
AKA "Wahoo."
"In 1974 I was living the life of a nomadic Hunter-Gatherer in the
Rocky Mountains of Colorado. As late Autumn approached we, my
Companion and her daughter, and a few other a-horseback fellow
travelers, began looking for a place to establish our Winter Camp."
And apparently Pena was not of San Juan PUEBLO, but just living in a
place called San Juan BOSQUE. San Juan Pueblo is more than 200 miles
from the closest part of the Southern Ute reservation.
"We had the fortune of meeting a woman, Lu Ann, with whom we had an
aquaintance in common. Lu Ann's land just happened to sit in the
midst of the Southern Ute Reservation...I also investigate the San
Juan River bosque' to the South of, and over a ridge from, our Camp."
Since this site was in the middle of the Ute reservation, that would
actually make it about 400 miles from San Juan Pueblo. Why would an
alleged San Juan Pueblo elder not be living among his community?
Even if Pena was actually a member of San Juan, he was likely not a
spiritual elder, he was simply OLD.
So was Pena a San Juan Puebloan, or Ute, another tribe, or just an
elderly Mexican they took advantage of?
Likely the last one, and there is very little resemblance in
ANYTHING either Grigori or Spence falsely portray as being San Juan
Pueblo beliefs.
We, the member of New Age Frauds Plastic Shamans or NAFPS urge
everyone:
1) Have nothing to do with Jade Grigori AKA "Jade W'ahoo" AKA "Jade
Wah'oo" and Nicholas Spence AKA "Noble Wolf".
2) Do not buy the phony ceremonies they sell or attend
their "medicine camps" or workshops.
3) Any alleged "healing" they do is potentially dangerous, given
their lack of ethics and lack of truthfulness and fabricated lineage.
Do not recommend them to others.
4) Pass along the information you've read here to others.
5) Contact Native activist groups such as NAFPS or AIM (American
Indian Movement) and keep them informed about Grigori's and Spence's
activities.
6) If you are yourself a victim of Grigori or Spence, we strongly
urge you to sue them in court and to file criminal charges for
consumer FRAUD.