Author Topic: Billie Topa Tate/ Bertha Leiser/ Hertenstein (MSI Wellness, Evanston IL)  (Read 7679 times)

Epiphany

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Billie Topa Tate, founder of MSI Wellness Center, is a traditional Holistic Practitioner and Native American Mescalero Apache teacher.

Associated with Lozen Brown Bear http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4060.0
Read through that thread for info on Billie also, including: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4060.msg34251#msg34251

Billie and Lozen say their mother is "Mama Little Wolf"

Original surname may be Herrera, based on story of family in 1994 http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4060.msg34246#msg34246

Runs http://msi-healing.com/

In web people searches:  Bertha Leiser,  Billie Leiser, Bertha Hertenstein.

Daughter Monique Leiser (Monique Little Doll, Maria Oliva Campuzano) active in family business

Neil C Hertenstein is in the banking industry , also "Registered Municipal Advisor MSI" http://www.linkedin.com/pub/neil-hertenstein/11/5a1/665, had a page up for several years on Billie's site:

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The Municipal Sciences Institute is a company specializing in helping vendors and developers increase the amount and profitability of their business with State and Local Government.

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Neil Hertenstein, President
The Municipal Sciences Institute
Evanston, IL 60201

http://web.archive.org/web/20110226213630/http://www.msi-healing.com/MunicipalSI/

Info on Evanston IL area:
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4060.msg34263#msg34263
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4060.msg34265#msg34265
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Epiphany

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Past Sedona event:

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Sedona Retreat August 17 - 22 with Billie Topa Tate. Experience a Wonderful Sacred Time. enjoy our videos of our Sedona Retreat

here are a few wonderful things we will be doing together

Apache Divination Cards
This is a First Time event - Billie will be sharing her newly designed Apache Divination Cards - each Sedona retreat member will pick a card for their Sedona experience

Sacred Sedona Rattle
Make a Beautiful Sacred Rattle from items collected during our Sedona Retreat. Billie & Mama Little Wolf will provide instruction on how to do this in a honoring and sacred way. we will do this in the sacred areas of Sedona

Shamanic Sacred Journey with Adam Yellow Bird
a beautiful shamanic song and drumming experience will take you on a spirit journey to connect with a sacred land

Sweat Lodge
called the Inipi Ceremony, one of the most important Native rituals and will be facilitated by Adam Yellow Bird

Medicine Wheel Ceremony
this is a beautiful place to experience a deep connection with Native Healing Energy

come with us and re-connect with a beautiful place in your heart and spirit and so much more. visit our website to register with a friend - its good karma

http://allevents.in/events/sedona-retreat-aug-17-22-billie-topa-tate/116983425164726

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Why was the Sweat Lodge created by Native American People?
It was prompted by the influence of European culture with its corrupting effect on native culture. With the introduction of alcohol and the inhumane treatment of native people, the need to re-purify themselves and find their way back to traditional ways of living became evident, as they were becoming increasingly poisoned by European culture. The Sweat Lodge Ceremony was the answer.

http://msi-healing.com/blog/what-is-a-sweat-lodge-ceremony

Autumn

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On the link provided by Piff above, this is what they have also to say about the sweat lodge:

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What is a Sweat Lodge made up?

The lodge in former times was covered with the hides of buffalo, bear or moose. In this day, the animal skins have been replaced with blankets, plastic sheeting, old carpet, heavy gauge canvas sheets and tarps to retain the heat and the steam.
There are several styles of structures used in different cultures; these include a domed or oblong hut similar to a wickiup, a permanent structure made of wood or stone, or even a simple hole dug into the ground and covered with planks or tree trunks. Stones are typically heated and then water poured over them to create steam. In ceremonial usage, these ritual actions are accompanied by traditional prayers and songs.
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http://msi-healing.com/blog/what-is-a-sweat-lodge-ceremony

Plastic sheeting, old carpet???  These are not natural materials.  Most carpet is made from polyester or nylon, I think, and there is latex backing many times. 

BTW, that second paragraph came directly from Wiki:

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There are several styles of structures used in different cultures; these include a domed or oblong hut similar to a wickiup, a permanent structure made of wood and earth, or even a simple hole dug into the ground and covered with planks or tree trunks. Stones are typically heated and then water poured over them to create steam. In ceremonial usage, these ritual actions are accompanied by traditional prayers and songs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweat_lodge