Gudni Gudnason & Rocky Mountain/Modern Day Mystery School

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Here are some truthful facts about Derek O’Neil,
> his healing systems, his early workshops from over
> a decade ago, and some information regarding his
> original financial supporters—most of who left
> him years ago. This truthful information is for
> anyone wanting to know about Derek O’Neil so
> they can learn for themselves versus all the hype
> from his cult-like followers, as well as Derek’s
> own lies. The following is a long read, but
> contains factual information.
> 1- Prema Agni healing modality:
> Derek publicly proclaimed in his early workshops
> (2003 thru 2008), that Sathya Sai Baba was his
> spiritual master-teacher, and that this is how the
> prema angi healing symbol came about. Derek claims
> he was at Sathya Sai Baba’s ashram in India and
> that during that time he had dreams of a healing
> system. Derek claims he drew a sketch of this
> symbol he dreamed of (the prema agni) and then
> went to see Baba to ask Baba about the symbol.
> Derek says when Baba came up to him, Baba said
> aloud to everyone there, the words; “Give me
> prema agni!”. Derek says he then took the prema
> agni drawing out of his pocket and gave it to Baba
> who then held it up and blessed it, and then gave
> it back to Derek.
> So, is this true about the prema agni healing
> system and what Derek claims Sathya Sai Baba did
> in public at Baba’s ashram in India? Here are
> Baba’s own words on people who proclaim that
> Baba has endorsed them, or their healing modality,
> or that they have any special relationship with
> Baba, or that they are Baba’s direct envoy, or
> that Baba has bestowed upon them any special
> healing gifts or powers.
> Words of God: The Sai Avatar on Himself - Part 8
>
>
> "... I do not use others as My media; I have no
> need to...."
> "...nor do I hand over powers to anyone..."
>
> ?... Talking of faith, I must issue a warning.
> Many people are collecting money in various places
> using My Name for various purposes like arranging
> receptions, building mandirams, doing puja etc.
> That is unauthorized and against My Wish and
> Command. Do not yield to such requests and
> encourage this practice which I condemn. Then
> there is another set of people who trade on your
> faith. They advertise that I have 'possessed'
> them; that I am 'talking' through a medium or a
> stove (!) or some other thing. Treat all such
> people and their agents or brokers as you treat
> cheats; if you do not treat them so, then you are
> also accomplices in the cheating process. ??There
> are others who gather groups of followers and
> admirers and collect money exhibiting some idol or
> image that has been 'given' by Me or advertising
> some other sign of My Grace. Some of them even
> declare, "Sai Baba sent me to you to take from you
> some money" or "Sai Baba has given me this" or
> "Sai Baba blessed me specially thus and thus" and
> then ask for your help or your praise or your
> purse! I ask you to chastise all these types of
> men and turn them away - whoever they are. ??There
> are again some others who are swept off their feet
> by hysterical demonstrations by certain
> weak-minded Individuals, which are described as My
> speaking through them or acting through them! Take
> it from Me, I am not given to such absurdities!
>
> I do not use others as My media; I have no need
> to. I do not swing from side to side and prattle!
> ??.... Their gestures, words and actions are
> hollow and vain; those who burn incense before
> them and revere them are turning away from Me and
> running after Falsehood. ??..... For, how can the
> Full ever dally with the paltry and wear the
> habiliment of the trifling? When God has come
> assuming Form, take it from Me, it will not fill
> inferior vessels or embellish tawdry stuff or
> enter impure bodies .??..... I know there are some
> who proclaim, "Devotees have grown out of all
> proportion in these parts and so, Baba has
> allotted this region to me and directed me to take
> up the work of teaching and guiding you; so,
> admire my acts and adore me". I never allot in
> this manner, nor do I hand over powers to anyone,
> nor can such low minds deserve my Grace. No,
> never, For me who has the burden of the Universe,
> can a region or a few more devotees be too much? I
> am surprised at the stupidity which swallows such
> absurdities and flocks round these pitiable
> quacks.....
> - Sai Baba
> (http://www.saibabaofindia.com/words_of_god_8.htm)
>
>
> The only person Sathya Sai Baba has ever publicly
> endorsed, as well as publicly signed their healing
> teaching book—and this can easily be verified by
> many devotees at Baba’s ashram in India, is
> Phyllis Krystal.
> (http://www.phylliskrystal.com/469.html)
> I have not come across nor found one long-time
> Sathya Sai Baba devotee who resides at Baba’s
> ashram who has been able to verify Derek’s above
> claim.
> Knowing all this, who would you now believe?
> Derek’s own spiritual master, Sathya Sai Baba, a
> Being who is globally recognized to be
> God-Realized with over 100million devotees? Or,
> Derek O’Neil, an ordinary person who is a self
> proclaimed master healer, and whom Sathya Sai Baba
> never once publicly declared was Self-Realized,
> let alone a master healer? Common sense, wisdom
> and critical thinking say we believe Sathya Sai
> Baba. So now we know Derek for what he is, a liar
> who was and still is, cashing in on his
> relationship to Sathya Sai Baba for his own
> financial gains.
>
> 2- Rising Star healing:
> Derek claims in his own words: “The Rising Star
> healing symbol incorporates but is separate from
> the Prema Agni symbol. Keeping in mind the Prema
> Agni symbol and adding to it the seal of Solomon
> and the Avatar, brings this healing system to the
> highest vibrational level.”
>
> Here again, since we now know the prema agni
> symbol is fake and was never endorsed by Sathya
> Sai Baba as Derek claims, what then does that make
> the rising star healing system? And what exactly
> IS the energy of rising star, and where does it
> originate? Since Derek is lying about the prema
> agni healing modality and his claims of Sathya Sai
> Baba blessing it, how can Derek be trusted?
> Therefore, who in their right mind would want an
> energy healing system of unknown origins placed
> within their energy field that is based on a
> fraudulent lie?
>
> 3- Karnak Initiation into the Great White or Gold
> Brotherhood:
> Here again, Derek publicly claimed (2007-2008) His
> Holiness Sathya Sai Baba gave Derek an updated
> energy ability to give this karnak initiation to
> people completely anew. Derek showed around a
> supposed piece of paper with Baba’s supposed
> handwriting on it to everyone as Derek’s
> so-called proof. This paper is also what Sondra
> Shaye would show to all who attended her karnak
> initiation(s) workshops.
> Again, this energy cannot be trusted because it
> was not given by Sathya Sai Baba which once again
> begs the important question, just where and what
> IS this energy, and is it really safe to have put
> into your energy field? And once again, why has
> Derek deliberately lied to everyone about it?
> Derek NOW CLAIMS on his own website 2017
> (https://www.derekoneill.com/rising-star-healing-s
> ystem/); “The Rising Star is an extraordinarily
> powerful system sourced from an ancient Tibetan
> lineage.”
> So, what are we to believe? First, the rising star
> and prema agni were given to Derek by Sathya Sai
> Baba and blessed by Baba, but currently it is now
> a so-called system sourced from an ancient Tibetan
> lineage? Btw, what Tibetan lineage—he fails to
> state even that, from what lineage of Tibetan
> monks—where’s this proof? It seems Mr.
> O’Neil cannot get his story straight about his
> own so-called energy healing systems and where
> they originate. Makes you wonder about him and
> what he is really selling, making him highly
> suspect, dubious in nature and far from
> trustworthy.
>
> 4- Prema Birthing:
> Derek initiated prema birthing to only a few
> people in (2006) in an Ireland Workshop. At that
> workshop, Derek told these few people they could
> practice the healing modality as well initiate
> others into the prema birthing healing modality as
> teachers of that modality. Both Sondra Shaye and
> Brook Still were two of those people from this
> original group. However, by June 2008, Derek
> suddenly announced that only he could initiate
> anyone as a practitioner/teacher, and that prema
> birthing modality had to be re-initiated to
> everyone in a New York City workshop by Derek
> himself, and only then could anyone who attended
> this workshop be a practitioner and/or
> teacher-initiator. Here it seems as though MONEY
> was the IMPORTANT factor, otherwise, why this
> change to what Derek did and said in the Ireland
> Workshop? What excuse did he give to justify this?
> If Derek did it wrong in Ireland, then he had an
> obligation to fix it for free, or refund everyone.
> Same for Sandra Shay and Brook Still, and all the
> others who conducted any prema birthing healings
> or teacher initiations—they should have
> reimbursed everyone they did a prema birthing on
> since Derek declared it null & void. Or, Derek
> should have given the workshop in NYC for free.
> But this did not happen. No one got refunded,
> instead, Derek charged everyone again for what
> they had already paid for—minus a very very
> small discount to those already initiated. But
> everyone had to fly to New York City—spend even
> more money, instead of Derek travelling to at
> least the west coast--LA as well since so many
> people were located there. Obviously there is
> something very wrong going on here. There was zero
> integrity on Mr. O’Neil’s part for taking
> responsibility for his obvious screw-up regarding
> prema birthing healing energy and his ‘need to
> correct it’ at everyone else’s expense.
>
> 4- A Healing Car Ride for $10thousand US dollars.
> Derek used to charge people $10,000US dollars for
> a 3-day car ride that he claimed would help them
> awaken to their true self. Derek would openly brag
> to attendees in his workshops that ‘most of the
> people who signed up for his three day ride
> healings never lasted all three days’, or that
> ‘most people who got into the car with him,
> never lasted more than 1 hour’. And he would
> smile and laugh at this.
>
> SOME FACTUAL PAST HISTORY and PAST WORKSHOP NOTES
> 2006 Summer Ireland Workshop:
> It was at this workshop that a majority of the
> people who had been with Derek O’neil from the
> very beginning, and who had financially supported
> him, his prema agni foundation, as well as gave
> huge donations to Derek so he could buy a healing
> center, all left Derek and his organization for
> good. Why? See the first *Note below.
>
> 2006 Fall Spokane WA workshop:
> In this workshop, Derek publicly displayed his
> abuse of his siddhis (supernatural psychic
> abilities) in the workshop in the following two
> ways:
> 1- Jodi, a yoga instructor and follower of
> Derek’s, got up and came to the mic and asked
> Derek for a healing. Derek told her to walk to him
> and when she did, Derek hit her with so much
> energy that she collapsed right to the floor.
> Fortunately Jodi was not injured when she fell
> flat on the floor, passing out cold. Derek claimed
> he opened one of Jodi’s nadis. Jodi remained out
> cold, lying on the floor for quite some time, and
> no one went to see if she landed ok and had not
> hurt herself in the fall. Not even Derek checked
> on her wellbeing after she fell.
> 2- Amalia Mayita Mendez came up to the mic and
> asked for a healing. What Derek did was
> deliberately shoot a specific energy vibration her
> way that purposely caused Mayita to have an orgasm
> in front of everyone there. Mayita moaned and
> groaned loudly as she put her hands all over her
> body while people simply watched and said
> nothing.
> Immediately after this workshop, many financial
> supporters from Spokane WA who attended this
> workshop, including the Spokane organizers, and
> who from early on, also had financially supported
> Derek and his prema agni foundation, quit
> afterwards and left the organization for good.
> This is understandable after reading about
> Derek’s behavior. Derek has been known to slam
> people with energy so that they physically or
> mentally freeze on the spot, at which time Derek
> then verbally chimes in saying what he wants to
> (his agenda) regarding the person he just
> energetically abused.
> *NOTE: The prema agni foundation was founded in
> 2006 and registered not in Derek’s name, but in
> Sondra Shaye’s name in New York--Sondra's legal
> last name as registered is Shaievitz, see website
> link
> (https://www.corporationwiki.com/p/2d48h0/office-o
> f-the-trustee-of-the-prema-agni-foundation-and-his
> -s) and
> (http://www.trademarkia.com/logo-77162189.html).
> However, the prema agni foundation was quickly
> dissolved in 2008. Now why was that? After all,
> this was the major nonprofit foundation Derek set
> up with his wife Linda with their stated mission,
> purpose, etc.. Might it be because Derek was being
> sued by some of the original people who
> financially supported and funded him, but who
> after his 2006 Summer Ireland Workshop, followed
> by the 2006 Fall Spokane workshop, now wanted
> their money back? Why did they demand a refund?
> They were rightfully angry because Derek lied and
> went back on his public promises to them regarding
> what his healing center would be in Ireland that
> he wanted to buy using their large financial
> funding (Per Derek words, Creacon Lodge cost
> roughly 7.5million Euros), as well as Derek now
> incorporating all the healing modalities and
> changing everything (announced in the 2008 Spring
> NYC Workshop--the prema agni foundation was shut
> down and Born Free Now was set up). It is highly
> probable the PA Foundation was dissolved so that
> Derek could move all his monies out the prema agni
> foundation and either into the Born Free Now
> Organization--this would make it practically
> impossible for anyone suing to collect any monies
> from a non-existant company, or from Derek
> himself. Or, Derek placed the funds someplace
> else, or emptied the account funds into also
> paying for Creacon Lodge.
> NOTE: In the Spring of 2008, Eric, a man from
> Montana, USA, who gave generously to Derek to fund
> Creacon Lodge, and who was a RS teacher, etc, sent
> an open email to everyone involved with Derek at
> the time. This email spelled out what Derek had
> lied about and why so many people who had financed
> Derek and been with Derek from the beginning, had
> since left because they all knew Derek was not
> trustworthy and that Derek had lied to them by
> going back on his word. Many people had been
> approached by Derek into being pressured by him to
> fund him, Creacon Lodge and PA Foundation.
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