"Vance Hawkins" <vhawkins@pacer.com>
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:47:20 -0000
Subject: [newagefraudsplastichshamans] Re: Cherokee Convention Debates Fake Tribes
I once emialed someone in the Cherokee Nation's registrar's office in
Tahlequah. I was told (paraphrasing) "Do you have any idea of the
number of phone calls, e-mail,s letters in the mail, saying 'we just
got our names put on the rolls, now tell me where our Indian money
is?' "
Then the person in the registrar's office has to inform them that
they are sorry, but they never received Tribal Membership in THE
Cherokee Nation, but rather in some group calling itself the
Cherokee/Chickamauga/Tsalagi Tribe/Nation/Band of
Alabama/Georgia/Arkansas/Missouri/Ohio, ad infinitum . . .
And once receiving this "membership" often the first question they
ask is "where is my Indian money?"
vance
--- In newagefraudsplastichshamans@yahoogroups.com, "educated_ndn"
<educated_ndn@y...> wrote:
>
http://www.cherokee.org/TribalGovernment/Executive/CCC/claremore.txt>
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> I'll call your attention to another problem
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> 4 that will arise here. Whenever there is money
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> 5 involved -- and rest assured that this is considered by
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> 6 many people, money, money only. In fact, we had some
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> 7 rather very harsh words not long ago, and my wife
stepped
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> 8 in between me and a guy at the Indian Hospital up here
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> 9 about that matter.
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> 10 A man that I had grown up with who had said
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> 11 some most unkind things about the Welches being Indians
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> 12 when we went to high school. In fact, we fought about
it
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> 13 then, and we almost fought about it up here just
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> 14 recently.
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> 15 And I saw him, and I said, "Aren't you
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> 16 so-and-so," and he said, "Yeah, I know who you are;
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> 17 you're Butler Welch." I said, "Yes, I am. What are you
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> 18 doing down here; why are you here?" He said, "I've got
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> 19 a card number. I've got a roll number." I said, "How
in
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> 20 the world did you ever get a roll number?" He said, "My
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> 21 grandfather was so-and-so, and I got a roll number, and
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> 22 I'm one hundred and one sixty fourth or some such a
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> 23 matter."
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> 24 Well, my next remark was one calculated to
get
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> 25 a black eye. I resent that. I resent it. I'll say it,
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>
> COURTEMANCHE REPORTING SERVICE
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> 31
>
>
> 1 and I don't apologize for anything that I said. This
man
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> 2 and that family grew up in what we used call, "Nigger
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> 3 Bend," and that's the wrong thing to say, but that's
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> 4 where they grew up. And they consistently over the
years
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> 5 denied that they were any part of Cherokees,
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> 6 descriminated against them, would not hire them to work
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> 7 on their property, and now then they're descendents, and
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> 8 receiving services out here at Indian Hospital, and I
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> 9 recent it. I don't like it.
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> 10 I think it's wrong. And that's little and
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> 11 mean and hateful, and I agree that that's the case. I'm
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> 12 not going to lie about it that I feel that way.
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> 13 I don't know how you would go about doing --
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> 14 what to do. I just opened Pandora's box that could
cause
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> 15 litigation for the next twenty-five years, didn't I?
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> 16 Didn't I, George?
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