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Offline wolfhawaii

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Re: Jane Ely
« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2009, 09:06:15 pm »



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This place looks amazingly like the Nuyagi Ceremonial Ground near Barryville, NY......I wonder if the Nuyagi folks were/are aware of these commercial activities? I could add a lot more but i wonder if the moderators think enough research has been done and this thread can find a more suitable home?
 
 

Offline wolfhawaii

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Re: Jane Ely
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2009, 06:03:50 pm »
The last several times I have checked, all of Jane Ely's website were no longer functional. She is still active here in Hawaii and presumably in the Wilmington DE, Wilkes-Barre PA, NJ/NY area. My wife saw her in Walmart the other day at a distance of about 4 feet and Jane pretended not to see her. Jane did the same to me at the last powwow and disrespected all of the other gourd dancers in the arena in not shaking hands during a giveaway. So much for walking her talk.
I have not found any Eastern Band Cherokee folks who know or claim her, nor have my inquiries to Miqmak folks found any who know her. Jane Ely has solicited members for SECCI here
on Kauai and was enrolled with SECCI according to the former registrar for that organization. There is a thread regarding SECCI elsewhere on the site. http://newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1166.0 Jane's former partner Sam Beeler had also solicited members for SECCI; this seems odd as he has been said to be enrolled Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma (a claim I seriously doubt) and has been active in the Sandhills Band in NJ. The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma has formed a task force to combat fraudulent Cherokee "tribes" including SECCI and Sandhills. http://taskforce.cherokee.org/LinkCl...d=106&mid=2118
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Re: Jane Ely
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2009, 06:24:49 pm »
http://www.vawatchdog.org/08/nf08/nfAPR08/nf040808-5.htm
http://www.medicinecrow.com.au/
I met Medicine Crow in 2006, he was quite personable to me although others found him abrasive. First i've heard about him and Jane being former partners; is my "sister" been keeping secrets from me?
Wolfhawaii, you consider Jane Ely your "sister"?

Notice the quotation marks.... Jane Ely has falsely claimed to be of the same clan I belong to, using this as a way to get me to do things on her behalf until her deception was revealed. Coersion and manipulation are well-used tools in her repertoire.

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Re: Jane Ely and Carroll Medicine Crow Holloway
« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2009, 01:43:54 am »
The Sand Hill Band have filled a trillion dollar lawsuit. That is not a typo.

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http://www.bluejersey.com/userDiary.do?personId=691

Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 04:53:46 PM EST

The suit by the NJ Sand Hill Band of Lenape and Cherokee Indians filed today, named defendants including Governor Corzine, Secretary of State Nina Wells, and the NJ Commission on American Indian Affairs. Chief Ron Yonaguska Holloway answered questions for NBC news, NJN news, and the Star Ledger reporters at 50 Walnut Street in Newark about how the situation resulted in a lawsuit. Chief Yonaguska Holloway explained the treaty laws involved that had been violated and reiterated that the Governor had refused to even meet with the tribes, despite repeated requests over several years. Also present today were Principal Chief Darius Two Bears Ross of the Ani Tsalagi Onaselagi, Principal Chief Carroll Medicine Crow Holloway of the New Jersey Sand Hill Band of Lenape and Cherokee Indians as well as several other Native Americans. This was a very serious occasion for the Chiefs to be present. It is unfortunate that the stubbornness of the Governor and the Secretary of State to resolve this issue peacefully over the past 2 years has resulted in this lawsuit. Both the Ani Tsalagi and Sand Hill Band had made repeated requests to be included in the Commission on Indian Affairs or even in the report on Native Americans that the Governor KNEW was false, since it left out mention of the Sand Hill Band and the Ani Tsalagi. And so we are here. Our NJ Governor is being sued for knowingly violating the civil rights of our indigenous peoples by ignoring their rights altogether. And it may cost us all quite a bit of money. The amount listed in the suit which is actually LESS than the current value of the property and water rights taken is roughly $1 trillion. Yes. Trillion with a T. As an elected official I try my best to uphold the laws of NJ and stay out of lawsuits by bargaining in good faith. By completely ignoring the rights of the two tribes in question - for whatever reason, our Governor and appointed officials in NJ on the NJ Commission on American Indian have let us down by not even bothering to address this issue till it got to this point... snip [T]he gist is that the Governor and Secretary of State as well as the NJ Commission on American Indian Affairs basically knowingly conspired to eliminate the existence of the oldest indigenous tribe in the state of NJ and in so doing violated nearly every treaty with the Sand Hill Band ever signed.

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The only place I found it posted is pretty right wing, not quite militia types but close.
http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=49413
Americans United for Truth and Freedom has lots of articles about gun rights, lots of ominous warnings about the End Times, and posters who claim, for example, that Obama is like Hitler, that the Illuminati control everything in a vast conspiracy, etc.

Note there are several posters there, Limner and and Two Hats, who ID as NDN and suggest they may be members of the tribe.

Found this discussion on an academic listserv that turns up a statement that the "band" is not even recognized by actual Sand Hill descendants.

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http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=H-New-Jersey&month=0902&week=d&msg=JqogJl6cLnA42vZUhuEyQw&user=&pw=
Hello Tim,

Your email was referred to me by Randall Gabrielan, President of the
Monmouth County Historical Commission. The lawsuit was filed by a bogus
group in Paterson who have stolen the identity of the original Sand Hill
Indians of Monmouth County.

My grandparents and great-grandparents were the original owners of the
property known as Sand Hill in Neptune, NJ. For several years this other
group has been claiming that our cousin, Jim Revey, of the NJ Indian
Office in Orange, turned over the tribe to them, which is untrue.

Last year I sent letters to the governor and other state officials to
disclaim this false group and try to separate our names from them.? They
have quite a bit of info on the bluejersey.com criticizing everyone in the
state and us.

We are the descendants of the Richardson-Revey families of Monmouth
County.? NJNTV covered one of our pow-wows in August? 2004 and we have the
film clip taped from News 12.

I can supply more info about the bogus group if you call me- 732-747-5709.

Claire Thomas Garland
Director of Sand HIll Indian Historical Association
PO Box 444, Lincroft, NJ 07738?

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Re: Jane Ely
« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2009, 04:08:03 am »
Another article on the suit and some of the history of these folks.....

Headline:
With lawsuit against N.J., little-known Indian group is thrust into spotlight

by Joe Ryan/The Star-Ledger

Sunday March 22, 2009, 6:59 PM

 

The story of the Sand Hill Indians and the $1 trillion lawsuit begins on a wooded slope in Monmouth County .  Rising in Neptune Township , Sand Hill was settled 132 years ago by Lenape and Cherokee Indians who raised cows and chickens and helped build Victorian houses in nearby Asbury Park . Some of their descendants, who say they are more extended family than tribe, still gather for reunions near the ancestral hill.
Claire Garland, a member of the Sand Hill Indians, holds a peace pipe that belonged to James "Long Bear" Revey, the tribe's contemporary patriarch.

But during the last decade, a second group has surfaced in North Jersey, headquartered in Paterson . Its members also call themselves Sand Hill Indians, saying they are named after the same spot. 

The trouble is, the Sand Hills of Neptune say the ones in Paterson aren't Sand Hills at all. And therein lies the debate.

It began quietly as a disagreement about genealogy and bloodlines but gradually spiraled into a bitter feud. And now, with a federal lawsuit naming Gov. Jon Corzine and all 21 counties, that feud has thrust a spotlight on the Sand Hills -- a little-known group that historians say may include some of the last few local descendants of New Jersey 's original inhabitants.
Ronald Holloway, who says he is the chief executive of one faction of Sand Hills, has filed a federal lawsuit against Gov. Jon Corzine and all 21 New Jersey counties.
The suit was filed in U.S. District Court in Newark last month by two men -- one from Australia , one from California -- who say they are long-lost Sand Hills and are the Paterson group's new leaders. Its demands include state recognition of the Sand Hills and $1 trillion in damages, paid in 1-ounce gold coins.

 

The move stunned the Sand Hills of Neptune . They accuse the two newcomers of hijacking their heritage to try to extract money from the government.
"They have stolen our name," said Claire Garland, 64, a retired middle-school teacher and member of the Neptune contingent.

In an age of multimillion-dollar tribal casinos, competing genealogical claims among American Indians are fairly frequent, scholars say. But they can be tough to unravel. Tribes traditionally did not keep records. Many records they did have were lost during forced migrations. Bloodlines fade with time. Years later, it can be tough to prove who is related to whom.
"This kind of tangled web is common," said Tom Kavanagh, a Seton Hall University professor of sociology and anthropology who studies American Indian cultures.
Roughly 50,000 people in New Jersey claimed some form of American Indian ancestry on the 2000 census. There are no federally recognized tribes based here. 

But during the last three decades, the state Legislature has passed several resolutions acknowledging three groups: the Nanti coke-Lenni Lenape, whose tribal office is in Cumberland County ; the Powhatan-Renape of Burlington County ; and the Ramapough Lenape, headquartered in Mahwah.

Those resolutions, however, did not provide the groups with access to special services or tax breaks. 

So who are the Sand Hills? The two sides agree on this much: The Sand Hills are descended from Lenape and Cherokee Indians who intermarried in New Jersey during the 19th century.

Five hundred years ago, New Jersey was home to the Lenape. Vestiges of their language echo in names like Hackensack , Manasquan, Watchung, Lackawana and Cheesequake.

The last large group of Lenape left the state in 1801. But a few clusters remained, including in Monmouth County , where they intermarried with Cherokee who had migrated from the Southeast, according to historians.
During the 1870s, a New York businessman built a summer resort amid the coastal woodlands near what is now Asbury Park . He hired local Lenape-Cherokee craftsmen and carpenters and in 1877 sold them 15 hillside acres, in what eventually became Neptune .
Locals called the spot Sand Hill. And the craftsmen and carpenters came to be called the Sand Hill Indians. They lived there for generations, working as builders, basket weavers and tanners. They had a chief and tribal council system and held ceremonial powwows.
But many of the traditions faded by the mid-20th century. The last powwow was in 1949, and the chief and council structure dissolved four years later, historians say. 

"The old people died and nobody stepped up," said Fortune Thomas, 62, who is Garland 's brother and owns an auto body shop in Tinton Falls .

Still, Thomas said the family gathered each Labor Day for reunions in Neptune, where members would grill corn, swap ancestral stories and pull crabs from the Shark River . 

Things grew complicated after the 1998 death of James "Lone Bear" Revey. 

Revey was the longtime head of the New Jersey Indian Office in Orange . Most say he was the Sand Hills' contemporary patriarch.

But some -- including the Paterson Sand Hills -- contend Revey was more than an unofficial leader. They say he was chief. 

Sam Beeler grew up in Paterson and has been active for years in local American Indian causes. As he recalls it, Revey lay dying at age 74 when he asked Beeler to assume leadership of the Sand Hills. 

"He asked me to take over," Beeler said.
And so Beeler became chief, he said. 

That was news to the Sand Hills of Neptune .

 

"No one had ever heard of him in our family," said Garland , who lives in Lincroft and has compiled a 17-page family tree stretching back to 1790 using property deeds, obituaries and other records. 

At first Beeler and the Neptune Sand Hills were cordial, they said. But harmony was short-lived. Disagreements arose about who owned artifacts at the now-defunct Neptune Museum . Threatening letters were exchanged. Garland asked Beeler to stop calling himself chief.

 

Then two of Beeler's relatives arrived: Carroll "Medicine Crow" Holloway and his son Ronald Holloway. They said they were Sand Hills, too.

 

The older Holloway is Beeler's cousin and a Philadelphia native who has spent most of the last 30 years in Australia working as a fashion photographer. He moved to eastern Pennsylvania about two and a half years ago, according to his son.

 

In 2007, Carroll Holloway be came chief of the Paterson Sand Hills, whose official name is the Sand Hill Band of Lenape and Cherokee Indians. Ronald Holloway -- who moved to New Jersey in November from a town 50 miles east of San Francisco -- said he is now the group's chief executive. 

The lawsuit was filed last month. It surprised even some of the Paterson Sand Hills.

 

"That lawsuit was filed without the advice and consent of the tribal council," said Yona Youngblood, a Paterson Sand Hill elder.

And why the $1 trillion in 1-ounce American Eagle gold coins?

 

"It's a financial move that says that we are serious," said Ronald Holloway, 45, who said he is a theologian and former police officer who holds a half-dozen securities licenses.

 

He is not a lawyer, but he plans to litigate the suit himself.

 

Garland and her relatives, meanwhile, say they don't want the Sand Hill name used for any lawsuit against the state.

"They are trying to use our legitimacy and heritage to make themselves look credible," said Garland , who lives in Lincroft.

Part of the two groups' disagreement is about how to define who is a Sand Hill.

 

By Garland 's measure, the only true Sand Hills are direct descendants of the single Lenape-Cherokee family that bought the 15 hillside acres in 1877. But Beeler and the Holloways contend there are 14 families who make up the group and only one of them actually lived on Sand Hill.

 

They also say James "Lone Bear" Revey was their cousin.

 

Not so, said Revey's niece, Carol Clarke.

 

"As far as I know they are not my relatives," said Clarke, who lives in Hempstead , N.Y.

 

The two sides also differ on the matter of chiefs.

 

Beeler and the Holloways tell of an unbroken string of chiefs going back hundreds of years, ending with Revey, Beeler and Holloway.

Most historians say that's not true. And Revey himself wrote in a history of the Sand Hills that the group's chief and council system dissolved in 1953.

 

These days, the Sand Hills of Neptune and the Sand Hills of Paterson are no longer speaking. Their dispute and especially the lawsuit -- has jolted the state's American Indian community, said the Rev. John Norwood, a member of the Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape.

 

"It casts a cloud," Norwood said. "And it airs a dispute that should be handled inter-tribally."

 

Ronald Holloway, however, predicted the suit would once and for all settle the question of who is a Sand Hill and who is not. Claire Garland hopes he is right.

 

"I don't care what they do in North Jersey ," she said. "It has nothing to do with us. But using our name to sue the governor is a whole other story."

 

For comments see:

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/03/with_lawsuit_against_nj_little.html

 

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Re: Jane Ely
« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2009, 04:42:53 am »


Excerpts from another article:


By JESSICA COHEN

Community News Writer

January 23, 2009

MILFORD — Upon entering Lightseeds Yoga in Milford , patrons sit down in the healing circle led by Medicine Crow, a gracious bearded man hastens over to me and passes an aromatic burning herb under their noses. The eyes sting, and this writer wonders what the herb is and what it will do.

But 20-some other people, young to gray, sit in the circle looking fairly lucid as Crow, eclectic shaman, paces around, his patter ranging from serious to silly or both at once.

Introductorily he says, "I could strip, but there's not much to see. Twenty years ago maybe. ... Why is it that for some people the skin suit lasts only 20 years, but for others it lasts more than a hundred?"

To him, the body expresses the mind's state, and what makes him a healer is his odyssey in healing his own ills, as he evolved from being Carroll Holloway, a respiratory physiologist in Los Angeles, where he received his Ph.D. from UCLA, to Medicine Crow, peripatetic healer and student of healers, with a doctorate in religious philosophy from the University of Sydney in Australia, and doctorate in metaphysics from the Universal Life Church.

Though a Native American from the Sand Hill band of the Lenni Lenape tribe in New Jersey , his shamanic knowledge, he says, comes from other places as well, including China , Tibet , and Australia , where he spent 17 years. But, he emphasizes that he is only a good "assistant" healer.

"You want to be a shaman?" he asks the circle. "Be one! You are the supreme being. In my circles there's no hoochie koochie — you're the boss. You think it's all just happening to you. The car splashes slush on you. The dog lifts his leg on you. Annie says I talk too much. But you have to have tools."

People retreat into their meditations as he plays a rambling melody. He can also sing and play bass, medicine drums, rattles, gongs, synthesizer, and didgeridoo. In the Native American Music awards (NAMMY) in 2008, he won Best New Age Recording for his CD Homeland Security, in which he sings and plays all the instruments.
Full article here:
http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090123/NEWS13/901230325