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redhawk45  -  Excluding Federally Recognized Tribes, which leaves State Recognized and unrecognized tribes, how can you

tell which one is legitiment or not?  Meaning, how can you tell which ones are frauds and which ones are real?  Other than if a

tribe charges a fee to be a member (even I don't believe in charging a fee).

educatedindian  -  I would say the standard is a pretty simple one. Vine Deloria defined being Indian as knowing who your

relatives are. If the fed recognized tribes in turn recognize an unrecognized tribe or band, that should be the ultimate standard.

If the fed recognized tribes don't recognize them, at best they are descandants, at worst frauds or even in a few cases cults or

militias. (Do a search for the threads on the Pembinas if you doubt me.) 
 

How do you refer to a tribe in a way that makes it clear what you are meaning is a bona-fide one?
Would you say something like 'a federally recognised tribe' or 'a tribe recognised by a federally recognised tribe'?
Is there a short way to put it which leaves no room for misunderstanding?

-Spandex

[earthw7]

No there is no way we have many Tribal nations in the United States,
We have
Federally Recognized Nation 580 of them
States Recognized Nations
Unrecognized Nations

This really hard to define that is why we have so many frauds showing up.
The decendant of a tribe have no right within the tribe because they
are not members of that nation anymore. it is like a person coming from
German give up his country to take an oath in american, he become an american
and no longer a german member.

The BIA-Bureau of Indian Affairs keeps a list of all the tribes Nation
if you want to know who is real.
No Tribal Nations charges a fee to be a member
you are born into the nation. We all know each other in Tribal Nations.
We ask who are your relatives?
What is your homelands?
What people claim you?

[Spandex~Atom]

Thanks for explaining, I know a bit better the difficulty now of exposing these fakes.