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Offline milehighsalute

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chief steven silverheels
« on: February 16, 2016, 04:44:21 pm »
http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20091017/ARTICLES/910169968

christian powwow leader......i knew other tribes didnt acknowledge him as chief......but i didnt know that his being a son of jay silverheels was in question

this article is old news.......he still seems to be active in christian circles still claiming to be a chief

cool war bonnet bruh

Offline Diana

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Re: chief steven silverheels
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2016, 08:22:04 pm »
http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20091017/ARTICLES/910169968

christian powwow leader......i knew other tribes didnt acknowledge him as chief......but i didnt know that his being a son of jay silverheels was in question

this article is old news.......he still seems to be active in christian circles still claiming to be a chief

cool war bonnet bruh


Hi MHS, I did a quick looksee at Jay Silverheels bio and he has 3 sons and a daughter. He had on son with a woman named Edna Lickers, his name was Ron and that was when he was in Buffalo NY the year was unclear maybe late 30's early 40's. Then he married a woman named Bobbi Smith, married?-1943 and had a daughter. In 1945 he married Mary Diroma and was married to her until his death in 1980. And they had 2 sons, one named Jay Silverheels Jr. and the other I don't know the name.

This guy says he's 69 and the news article was written in 2009 so he would have been born in 1939-1940?? Oh, one more thing Jay Silverheels was born and raised in Canada as born Harold John Smith on the Six Nations of the Grand River First Nation, near Brantford, Ontario, Canada, one of 11 children. As far as I can see he was never on the Tonawanda Reservation NY. Maybe this Steve Silverheels is confused as he claimes he visited his father there. Hmmm.....Lots of red flags.     

Offline Sparks

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Re: Chief Steve Silverheels (not Steven)
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2016, 09:30:52 pm »
In the 2009—2010 thread about "Harold Hatcher and Splinter Group of Waccamaw", there is a long post mostly about Chief Steve Silverheels. The last link in that thread is the same as in the first post in today's discussion:

Received more information about the people surrounding Hatcher. Two people involved are "Rev Dr" Craig Talbot AKA One Who Talks to Doves and "Chief Steve Silverheels," who claims to be the son of the famous actor.

Talbot, a blond white man explaining how he builds his lodge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1H0g-lF7-k

Here Talbot blesses a colonel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j1Ljsyx5xY

On the first video he says he is Waccama.w One account I received says the following:

"Again this man is not Native American...I know this because his aunt is my oldest daughter's godmother and my mother has a 30 year friendship with his aunt."

Silverheels has quite a few youtube videos.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chief+silverheels&search_type=&aq=f

On his homepage he claims:
http://www.chiefsilverheels.org/home
"Chief Silverheels is a Seneca, Mohawk, Iroquois Native American.
He comes from a long line of famous Native Americans.
His Heritage Includes:
Son of Actor Jay Silverheels, who starred as Tonto on the T.V. series The Lone Ranger.
Chief Trainer Halftown, who starred on the Pony Express series.
Chief Corn Planter, a Seneca War Chief
The Seneca Prophet, Handsome Lake, who turned his tribe and nation to Christianity."

Right. Only Handsome Lake wasn't Christian.

On his photos page, what's striking is that the only photos of his alleged father are publicity shots from TV. Looking for bios on Jay Silverheels, found the following.

http://www.filmreference.com/film/77/Jay-Silverheels.html
"Original name, Harold J. Smith; born c. 1918 (some sources say 1919), at SixNations Indian Reservation, Ontario, Canada; died of complications from pneumonia, March 5, 1980, in Woodland Hills, CA; son of A. G. E. Smith (a Canadianmilitary officer); married, wife's name, Mary; children: Marilyn, Pamela, Karen, Jay Anthony. Ethnicity: Mohawk."

No kids named Steve, and no mention of Seneca ancestry like "Steve Silverheels" claims.
A fan club site also discusses the women in Jay Silverheel's life and mentions that at least one of his kids carried his original last name of Smith, not the late changed name of Silverheels.
http://www.lonerangerfanclub.com/jaysilverheels.html

Steve's own account.
http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20091017/ARTICLES/910169968?Title=Son-of-American-Indian-actor-lives-a-spiritual-calling-in-Wilmington

I also wonder why Steve likes to wear plains warbonnets if he's supposedly Mohawk and Seneca.

Offline Sparks

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Re: Chief Steve Silverheels
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2016, 11:24:32 pm »
Silverheels has quite a few youtube videos.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chief+silverheels&search_type=&aq=f

On his homepage he claims:
http://www.chiefsilverheels.org/home
"Chief Silverheels is a Seneca, Mohawk, Iroquois Native American.
He comes from a long line of famous Native Americans.
His Heritage Includes:
Son of Actor Jay Silverheels, who starred as Tonto on the T.V. series The Lone Ranger.
Chief Trainer Halftown, who starred on the Pony Express series.
Chief Corn Planter, a Seneca War Chief
The Seneca Prophet, Handsome Lake, who turned his tribe and nation to Christianity."

The YouTube videos are still there. His homepage is permanently gone, and the last page snapshot archived (May 17, 2014) looks like this, containing the same text (and more) as was quoted above in 2009:

http://web.archive.org/web/20140517053039/http://chiefsilverheels.org/

Offline milehighsalute

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Re: chief steven silverheels
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2016, 02:40:44 am »
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=roy+spotted+eagle

well look at the company he keeps haha...again nice warbonnet bruh

and those poor kids roy spotted ego is raising as twinkies....sad

i didnt pay much attention to silverheels in the past......but posted after seeing that he was lying about being jay silverheels son

actually i was looking for that grand entry at that hobbyist powwow that roy was doing the shittiest dancing i ever seen in lol