Ancestral Voices/ Phillip Scott

[Otter3]

Thank you Epiphany and Educated Indian

[used2bnaf]

The main reason you won't be hearing from Phillip is because he will be at the Lone Star Sun Dance in Texas.  He is a little busy right now.  I'm sure he will stay current with what is said here about him.  I have had enough experience with him to figure that out.  I suspect we will hear some defense of him after LSSD.



Used2bnaf

[Twinkie_Slayer]

I hope he doesn't trip over a crystal skull while he's there and break a chakra 

[Autumn]

I hope he doesn't trip over a crystal skull while he's there and break a chakra 

Or trip over a chakra and break a crystal skull! 

[used2bnaf]

Oh....there are not any crystal skulls there.  Just some very spiritually hungry and emotionally unequipped non-natives trying to be traditional.  I don't say that with any meanness.  they really do think they are doing the right thing and helping people.  I think that most of them would stop if they saw how racist and damaging it actually is to the Lakota people.




used2bNAF

[earthw7]

No they would not those people have the ideal that they have the right to our ways, even when we see them do wrong things and tell
them they dont listen

[Twinkie_Slayer]

 That's been my observation with most of these types. Confrant them and try to explain what they are doing is disrespectful and damaging, and watch the justifications fly.

No they would not those people have the ideal that they have the right to our ways, even when we see them do wrong things and tell
them they dont listen

[Twinkie_Slayer]

IIRC, that Mary Grimes character has crystal skulls as part of her gig.

Oh....there are not any crystal skulls there.  Just some very spiritually hungry and emotionally unequipped non-natives trying to be traditional.  I don't say that with any meanness.  they really do think they are doing the right thing and helping people.  I think that most of them would stop if they saw how racist and damaging it actually is to the Lakota people.




used2bNAF

[Epiphany]

Oh....there are not any crystal skulls there.  Just some very spiritually hungry and emotionally unequipped non-natives trying to be traditional.  I don't say that with any meanness.  they really do think they are doing the right thing and helping people.  I think that most of them would stop if they saw how racist and damaging it actually is to the Lakota people.
used2bNAF

Most people don't want to know, and when they do know, don't stop. Once people leave Scott, they may move on to yet another fraud group, they may not understand that both Scott and Nuage philosophy are the problems.

So they have to both leave Scott and related Nuage ripoffs.

I as a person with white privilege could view them as people who mean well, who want to do the right thing. Because what they are doing doesn't impact me, a white person, I and my family don't have to live every day with the impact of their choices, I'm not a target of prejudice in this way.

So I have the luxury of assuming that they mean well. They aren't beating their wives and children, they seem earnest in their spiritual pursuit, surely they would stop if only they knew.

But as the passage of time shows, most people don't listen and they don't stop.

Those of us with white privilege can be victimized by con artists and we can go very astray in our pursuit of spiritual fulfillment. Sooner than later we have to get a grip. We have to get free of criminals and we have to stop grasping for what is not ours to own.

I believe we also have to tell the truth to each other.  We need to hold each other to higher standards.

Those in Scott's group need to get free of him. They also need to do the hard, uncomfortable work of seeing their own privilege.

[used2bnaf]

IIRC, that Mary Grimes character has crystal skulls as part of her gig.

Oh....there are not any crystal skulls there.  Just some very spiritually hungry and emotionally unequipped non-natives trying to be traditional.  I don't say that with any meanness.  they really do think they are doing the right thing and helping people.  I think that most of them would stop if they saw how racist and damaging it actually is to the Lakota people.




used2bNAF

They were a part of her "road show" I think, but not at dance.  I went to this particular dance for many years.  There were never any crystal skulls around.  Thunder usually just kinda blows in and leaves kinda like a rock star.  She doesn't spend any real amount of time there.  It is a show.

On another note....I am grateful I found this site.  I am also grateful that I was able to hear the truth from the people on these boards.


Used2bNaf

[Cetan]

Unfortunately Leonard Crow Dog had given his approval for the Lone Star Sundance and they use that as a justification that it is alright

[Annderling]

I'd like to thank you all for this forum.  I knew Phillip Scott. And I am glad to see he has been called out. I feel vindicated just from reading this forum.  I hope his followers will be able to see the truth, no matter how painful it is for them.

[used2bnaf]

I'd like to thank you all for this forum.  I knew Phillip Scott. And I am glad to see he has been called out. I feel vindicated just from reading this forum.  I hope his followers will be able to see the truth, no matter how painful it is for them.

Feel free to add your experience to this thread.  It will be helpful to those who start to question.


used2b..

[Otter3]

I'd like to thank you all for this forum.  I knew Phillip Scott. And I am glad to see he has been called out. I feel vindicated just from reading this forum.  I hope his followers will be able to see the truth, no matter how painful it is for them.

Welcome, Annderling. Thank you for your words.  I too am a former follower.  I agree with used2bnaf,  and hope you will add to this thread.

[Creekside]

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