[IMPORTANT NOTE:
FA is none other than John Martin AKA Tallsoldier77 and more than two dozen other sockpuppet IDs. The IP of FA matches that of others used by Martin.
Martin a violent fanatic supporter of white supremacist David Yeagley and associate of Nuage promoter John Lekay.
It seems that Mr. Martin has added Amylee to the list of Nuage frauds and imposters he defends.][Spam removed]
FACT: According to Educated Indian - he went to the time and expense of getting one of those computerized scams that gives you that system's best guess (more about that later) about a person named "Amylee Schwartz." WHAT? You can't even correctly spell the name of the imaginary person you are trying to research....
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FACT: I have seen no FACTUAL information that Amylee Swartz OR Schwartz's biological geneology is remotely represented here.
FACT: [Childish insults removed, also falsehoods from white supremacists] IF we are to pretend to believe the information listed is somehow related to AmyLee - then we don't get too far into it without questioning Educated Indian's bold and daring declaration that "They've been traced all the way back to Europe, every last one of them." The actual FACT comes in the second name - her alleged Father - where it lists he was adopted.
The buck stops right there. You have NOT traced that man's biological family anywhere - whether or not he was AmyLee's biological father. DEAD END - right here in Indian Country.
FACT: An earlier Poster assured us that the attorney has a "certified copy of AmyLee's Birth Certificate on which the name Swartz...nor any of its variations does NOT appear." There is no legitimate reason to disbelieve that person, then choose to believe this geneology report scam.
FACT: I didn't chase this [Childish insult] much farther - because it's all null and void anyway. BUT just because FACT finding is my hobby - try this one: According to this [Childishs insult] report, AmyLee's alleged biological Mother had two biological brothers - who were born to their shared Mother when that Mother giving birth to them was herself 3 years old - and the first brother was born 2 years before his own father was born.
FACT: EVEN if ANY of this was factual - the report clearly notes that the Maternal Grandmother was a
GUESS! The actual word they used was "possible" - this from the same expert geneology service which apparently knows little about gynocology - listing the uncles as born to a woman 3 years old and without their father's participation.
FACT: IF (and this is a real stretch to call it even a remote possibility) these people were really AmyLee's relatives - that still leaves this report showing an adopted father with an unknown ancestry and a Maternal Grandmother who is only recorded here as a "possibility." That leaves a lot of room for Native Ancestry! The notion that this report serves as "evidence" anywhere but in this kangaroo court is beyond rational and reasonable, and only adds fuel to the allegations that this is a hate-forum, despite its own claims to the contrary. (Personally, I'd have been embarrassed to show people that I paid for this garbage.)
FACT: My own story - I personally know of and witnessed one of the more popular scams that to this day resurfaces - relatives of my buddy at that time came up with that idea on selling people's "Coat of Arms" - (am I dating myself? I was a kid) with an alleged description of what they stood for, all the heroic attributes that people wanted to buy for themselves - you know, to feel good about their colonizing kin who invaded North America, or their relatives that washed up at Ellis Island...well, I saw firsthand how that operation worked - and my buddy - whose relatives operated it on the sly from their attic in a posh upscale neighborhood - said it was a "total scam, totally bogus." I am certain there are some legit options today - just as there are legit geneology services.
But- start out with the person's REAL name first.
Second spell it correctly.
FACT: The links provided by the report do NOT match the (mis)information it generated.
FACT: For the historian - and for anyone thinking "enrollment" is a viable definition of who is and who isn't an American Indian, you might want to read the research done by Dr. B. Mann - Seneca, who details and substantiates the corrupt mishandling of the entire "enrollment" process. I'm not Indian, but I sure wouldn't be waving an "Enrollment" card around if I were one - not after reading the searing indictment of that corrupt system - complete with FACTual EVIDENCE - that proved how wealthy white land-grabbers ended up "enrolled" while entire groups of Native Americans were prohibited! The [Childish insult] Indian and Historian, Dr. B Mann, offers impeccable research. [Falsehoods from white supremacists]
FACT: In my earlier post as in this post, I am not defending (nor am I denigrating) AmyLee and TALON, Inc. - I am here to defend FACTS - all my information in the first post was based solely on the FACTUAL evidence already in this thread and its links, combined with my knowledge of the complex tangle of laws strangling Native American Indians. All comments were mine and not representing Her Native Roots, Talon or AmyLee - again, I based it only on the information on this thread and at the provided links. Any rational person could repeat the same cyber-trail.
FACT: Educated Indian still doubts that TALON et al have an attorney - even though a poster said if anyone doubted that - just CALL HIM! (the attorney).
Wouldn't someone interested in FACTS pick up the phone or get on Skype from his Fulbright outpost in micronesia, and make the call? Why all this peripheral espionage - FACTS are often the simplest things to obtain! I find it baffling , and highly suspicious, that a historian would spend so much time chasing shadows when hard cold facts are a phonecall away.
FACT: SuperDog - I had to laugh at your notion that if AmyLee simply told you her ancestry then "that fact alone would get her taken off this board." You aren't really that naive, are you? There's a witch-hunt here - and ANY FACTS that anyone has offered here have been quickly denounced. Even if she turns out to be an FBI-(Full Blooded Indian [Childish insult]) Card-wagging-documented descendent of some famous Chief - there are posters here who will call for her to be denounced as having somehow offended somebody.(Rose is ready to [Racism and race baiting] her just for having lighter skin than she does...ignoring the online photograph of AmyLee's
real Mother -with obvious brown eyes, dark skin and raven black hair!) [Childish insult]The people who want to [Vicious racism and race baiting] are just baiting anyone who might possibly know anything about her so they can have that much more to tear apart. They have IGNORED FACTS that are right in front of their very noses - example - Rose's last [Childish insult] gesture defiantly asserts, [Childish Insults, Personal Insults, Racist Insults], "I say that Hawk Hollow is a fraudulant nonprofit organization that should have its tax exempt status removed!" That's [Childish insult] . If she read the actual posted FACTS and LINKS pertaining to the nonprofits she would understand that Hawk Hollow was an ADDRESS and never even had tax exempt status! So [Childish insult]! Rose, you got your wish - Hawk Hollow does not have any tax exempt status - [Childish insult] Should we overlook the FACT that it never did have tax-exempt status!
I am looking forward to seeing how this all turns out. I don't have a "horse in this race" except that I continue to root for FACTS - just the FACTS, ma'am, just the FACTS. (And I am wagering that there are quite a few people in the stands rooting right along with me.)
[Al's note: We don't reward childishness in here, so your dozens of juvenile insults were removed, along with numerous racist insults. You owe this forum an apology for your behavior.]
