Amwes, Alan and Samantha Blackhorse-Hull

[mysticknt]

are these folks for real

http://www.amwes.co.uk/

emailed them to see if they were still trading and what tribe they belonged to got  email back asking who i was but they forgot to take their name out of the email Alan and Samantha Blackhorse-Hull
i confused cos it says on their website they teaching native history to American Natives on active service

                           graham

[educatedindian]

Samantha Blackhorse Hull looks to be British.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Samantha_Blackhorse-Hull/586081342

My guess is that it's her kids dressing up as NDNs on the Am West site.

Alan B-H it's harder to tell. No photos of him I could find where he wasn't covered up with paint, just this generic icon.
http://www.flickr.com/people/amwes/

Some of the stories they tell seem off, altered for public consumption. I have a hard time believing any NDN would teach this to the public:

"In the History session there will be great emphasis placed upon exploding the common myths, and much reference to the discovery of America, including  Colombus, Madoc and the Greeks."

[Barnaby_McEwan]

http://www.facebook.com/people/Samantha_Blackhorse-Hull/586081342

Holding a beer bottle, nice.

[zoi lightfoot]

Alan Blackhorse Hull used to live on Canvey Island in Essex UK, He claims to have once "married a little Sioux girl" unfortunately the 'girl' and myself had occasion to meet and she was most certainly English,Samantha Blackhorse Hull was barely in her teens when these to met but she is also English and not one drop of IDN blood and if he wishes to know who said she doesn't tell him that was me.

[mrsdee]

hi
my partner and I until recently were members of the Amwes dance group, Alan Blackhorse Hull has always claimed to be Umatilla First Nations Canadian, and when my partner first met Samantha he was told she was Apache.......Alan has been married five times at least, and he claims that both of his daughters are Lakota Sioux, the youngest being the daughter of Samantha, who was born in Essex....the mother of his older daughter was also English.....he has 2 sons but doesn't attribute either to any particular tribe, and they are also from different marriages, the following post might be a bit informative
http://www.boltonschool.org/infants/news/beech-house-infants-learn-about-the-american-west/

[educatedindian]

Thanks for the information MD. You're not Native, are you? And none of their dancers are or claim to be, except the couple?

One red flag is his claim of who he is. The Umatilla rez is in Oregon. They have no reserves in Canada I could find.

If any of them have any Native ancestry, it looks to be pretty low BQ. Samantha is not wearing Apache regalia in any of the photos I saw, and there's no mention on their site of anything but "Plains" and "Eastern Woodlands" dress.

[mrsdee]

Neither myself, my partner or any of the dancers are Native, and have never claimed to be.

I was doing some research into Alan Blackhorse, 7th Boston Scouts and came across a PDF that says and I quote....

Alan Blackhorse is Native American from the NAVAJO tribe....

This was dated the 24 March 2016 concerning a visit Blackhorse and his family were making to a Tuxford Primary Academy in Newark Nottinghamshire in the UK on the 21st April

They used to dance at a Country and Western week, and in 1995 he was thrown out of Pontins Hemsby and told not to go back, we can't be sure of the circumstances as no charges were made, but we have our suspicions.

He also claimed to be in the U S Navy, and was a high ranking officer, as was his father.

He is also a scout leader in Boston, Lincolnshire and is causing no end of problems for a friend, anything we can find out about him that may help us we would be grateful for.

By the way he appears to have dropped the Hull part of his name

[educatedindian]

Blackhorse can be a Navajo name, which makes the Umatilla claim even stranger. Photo of him here.
http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/news/local/suttons-back-boston-scouts-relief-effort-for-flood-victims-1-7205486
Again, any ancestry would seem to be distant.

He appeared on British TV doing a hoop dance and smiled and laughed at stereotypes from the host.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDeqi9MpOdg

At one appearance they're called "descendants" no tribe named.
http://test.cnmedia.co.uk/palefaces-meet-blackhorse-1.894171

Here they went by a Lakota name.
http://www.newsprints.co.uk/view/0/9573457/0000945f011_jpg

[mrsdee]

Hi, I have found out that Alan Blackhorse Hull was actually born in Cannock Staffordshire UK and Samantha was born in Epping