The native person i was asking about is en enrolled member of the First Nation of Ca.In your eyes he may be worked with wannabes,but around 25 years ago we have trusted him as a person.I´m very unhappy that again people got hurted deeply through all that.We discussed all that also at a german forum and i will let know them what came out of this. Other people ,also me have been talking to participants of these "ceremonies" a lot of times.But mostly they don´t want to listen.Also different native people came around and often they didn`t have a problem with that kind,or they didn´t tell us.So it went on...But times are changing ,i and may be others will let them know again that they are doing wrong.Thank you Earthw7 for your work.If something is going to change i will let you know. i only can close with apologize,they don´t know what they are doing :'(somebody