Here is the awaited verification that Tecumseh is not who he says he is received from :
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:40:46 -0400
Subject: TBE James Oliver Johnson Lineage found (Part 1)
From: "Chief WALTER T. RENZ" <renzsilver@hotmail.com>
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No one in the Senica lands or mine will be eating Crow tonight. But Tecumseh will be.
There are no connection for him to claim. All past in Oklahoma or other places.
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 00:11:34 -0700
From: Researcher
Subject: TBE James Oliver Johnson Lineage found (Part 1)
To: renzsilver@hotmail.com
As per family tree TBE aka James Oliver Johnson III,
b. 29 May 1957, Erie, PA
James Oliver Johnson II, Father, b. 22 Dec 1923, NY, NY
d. 4 Dec 2001
Mar: 19 Dec 1955 to
Othello Davis Myers, Mother, b. 5 Jun 1926, Alquippa, PA (Aliquippa spelled wrong)
d. 2003, Erie PA
Grandparents:
James Oliver Johnson, b. 15 Jan, 1887, Washington, PA
FOUND:
Father is JOHN Newton Johnson, (NOT JAMES Newton Johnson)
b. 1843 VA, Black, Male, Parents born VA
Married to MARY (UKN), b. Jul 1866, Black, Female, b. PA; Parents b. PA
(Spouse #2) for 8 years: have 3 of 4 living
children under age of 8:
Arthur John N. Johnson, Black, Male, Single
Harry Alonzo " , Black Male, Single
Julius LeMoyne " , Black Male, Single (less than 1 yr. old)
The other children listed as sons and daughters are from a previous spouse UNKNOWN:
(Half Siblings of above children all born PA, Ftr. b. VA, Mtr. b. MARYLAND
i. Emma V. Johnson, 17, F, Black, Dau, Occupation Servant
ii. Mary, 16, F, Black, Dau, Occupation Servant
iii. Martha, 16, F, Black, Dau (Twin of Mary, both b. May 1884
iv. JAMES OLIVER, b. 1887, Black, Male, At School
John N. Johnson is age 57 in 1900 Census and a Driver, Ice wagon
Washington Boro, Washington, PA
Found:
John N.Johnson, b. 1843 VA, age 7 in 1850 Census (Southern District, Bedford, VA)
With Household/Parents:
1097 0097 William Johnson 46 M Farmer 1600 (Value of Estate Owned) Likely WHITE as no color listed except if B or Black on others)
All of the family is Born VA:
Lucinda Johnson (wife) 33, F
Sarah or Saiah? 15, F
Artivimuh?, 13, F
Thomas N. 11, M
William N. 9 M
JOHN N. 7 M **************************
George W. (or N.) 5 M
Mary E (or V) 2 F
Martha T 2 F (another set of twins?)
(this family is likely White; and the two twin girls are also named the same as John Newton Johnson's Twin girls: Mary & Martha in 1900 census.)
(The above are likely TBE's lines. NOT Mary Watts & James Newton Johnson)
James Oliver Johnson aka TBE's Father:
James JOHNSON
Birth Date: 22 Dec 1923
Death Date: 4 Sep 2001
Social Security Number: [Deleted]
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Pennsylvania
Death Residence Localities
ZIP Code: 16503
Localities: Erie, Erie, Pennsylvania
TBE's Mother:
Othello JOHNSON
Birth Date: 5 Jun 1926
Death Date: 2 Jul 2003
Social Security Number: [Deleted]
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Pennsylvania
Death Residence Localities
ZIP Code: 16503
Localities: Erie, Erie, Pennsylvania
(Why isn't the Month and day for Othello Death on family tree Powerpoint from erie site?)
No further records for parents yet.
Grandparents:
Greatgrandfather: ONLY one found b. VA living in PA in 1880, (James Oliver Johnson I was b. in Washington, PA 1887)
James JOHNSON Household
Male
Other Information:
Birth Year <1843>
Birthplace VA
Age 37
Occupation Laborer
Marital Status W <Widowed>
Race B <Black>
Head of Household James JOHNSON
Relation Self
Father's Birthplace VA
Mother's Birthplace VA
Source Information:
Census Place Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Family History Library Film 1255171
NA Film Number T9-1171
Page Number 426D
Male, Black, Widow in Phila. Household with him:
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
James JOHNSON Self W Male B 37 VA Laborer VA VA
William HILL Other M Male B 26 WV Works In Restaurant WV WV
Sarah HILL Other M Female B 24 PA PA PA
George HILL Other S Male B 6 PA WV VA
Louis THOMPSON Other M Male B 26 WEST INDIES Restauranteer W. I. W. I.
Amelia THOMPSON Other M Female B 25 DE DE DE
Lewis THOMPSON Other S Male B 3M PA W. I. PA
Anna LEWIS Other S Female B 11 PA At School WV PA
Source Information:
Census Place Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Family History Library Film 1255171
NA Film Number T9-1171
Page Number 426D
So he may have been married three times.
Previous Household:
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Benjamin POSEY Self M Male B 53 MD White Washer MD MD
Ansley POSEY Wife M Female B 43 VA Keeps House VA VA
Benjamin POSEY Son S Male B 14 PA At School MD VA
Edward POSEY Son S Male B 11 PA At School MD VA
Jno. HARPER Other M Male B 30 PA Waiter PA PA
Ellen RILEY Other S Female MU 17 MD MD MD
Next Household:
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Susan HARRIS Self W Female B 58 NJ Keeping House NJ NJ
Edward HARRIS Son S Male B 30 PA Messenger VA NJ
Jno. HARRIS Son M Male B 26 PA Waiter VA NJ
Cora HARRIS DauL M Female B 22 MD MD MD
James JACKSON Nephew S Male B 27 PA Ice Cream Maker PA NJ
LEONA JOHNSON (BUTLER?) (Great Grandmother):
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Results for: Leona Butler [refine search] [Print]
Birth/Christening, 1882, United States
Exact Spelling: Off
Matches: All Sources - 3
International Genealogical Index - North America
1. Leona Butler - International Genealogical Index / NA
Gender: Female Birth: 02 APR 1882 Laketon, Wabash, Indiana
2. Leona L. Butler - International Genealogical Index / NA
Gender: Female Birth: About 1882 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
3. Leona L. Butler - International Genealogical Index / NA
Gender: Female Birth: About 1882 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Matches: International Genealogical Index/North America - 3
Either her name was not Butler or was Butler, b. 1882, he says.
Here are details for each. LEONA BUTLER IS NOT YET FOUND IN 1880 Census.
Need to check
www.labs.familysearch.org/ 1.
IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
North America
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Leona Butler Pedigree
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
02 APR 1882 Laketon, Wabash, Indiana
Christening:
Death:
27 OCT 1964
Burial:
Parents:
Father: William J. Butler Family
Mother: Louisa Rager
Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
Source Information:
No source information is available.
Parents of Leona Butler:
Louisa Rager Pedigree
Female Family
Event(s):
Birth:
26 SEP 1850 , , Ohio
Christening:
Death:
18 SEP 1924 , Wabash, Indiana
Burial:
Marriages:
Spouse: William J. Butler Family
Marriage:
19 APR 1874 Laketon, Wabash, Indiana
Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
Source Information:
No source information is available.
William J. Butler Pedigree
Male Family
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
Marriages:
Spouse: Louisa Rager Family
Marriage:
19 APR 1874 Laketon, Wabash, Indiana
Source Information:
No source information is available.
2. (Cherokee Leona L. Butler "1"):
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Leona L. Butler Pedigree
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
About 1882 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Christening:
Death:
About 1982 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Burial:
Parents:
Father: Aaron Butler Family
Mother: Nora McKay
Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
Source Information:
No source information is available.
Her Parents: (According to USER SUBMITTED INFO; NOT DOCUMENTED!)
Aaron Butler Pedigree
Male Family
Event(s):
Birth:
About 1857 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Christening:
Death:
About 1957 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Burial:
Marriages:
Spouse: Nora McKay Family
Marriage:
About 1880 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
Source Information:
No source information is available.
Nora McKay Pedigree
Female Family
Event(s):
Birth:
About 1858 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Christening:
Death:
About 1958 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Burial:
Marriages:
Spouse: Aaron Butler Family
Marriage:
About 1880 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
Source Information:
No source information is available.
CHILDREN:
Children
1. Leona L. Butler Pedigree
Female
Birth: About 1882 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Christening:
Death: About 1982 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Burial:
2. Emmett Butler Pedigree
Male
Birth: About 1888 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Christening:
Death: 17 OCT 1902 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Burial:
3. Charles C. Butler Pedigree
Male
Birth: About 1894 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Christening:
Death: About 1994 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Burial:
3. OR this USER SUBMITTED Leona L. Butler:
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Leona L. Butler Pedigree
Female Family
Event(s):
Birth:
About 1882 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Christening:
Death:
About 1982 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Burial:
Marriages:
Spouse: Henry C. Martin Family
Marriage:
14 AUG 1904 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
Source Information:
No source information is available.
Henry C. Martin Pedigree
Male Family
Event(s):
Birth:
About 1880 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Christening:
Death:
About 1980 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Burial:
Marriages:
Spouse: Leona L. Butler Family
Marriage:
14 AUG 1904 , Cherokee Tribe, Native American
Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
Source Information:
No source information is available.
The last Leona Butler DIED 1982 NOT 1926 in NY as TBE says! Also, no FIRST Name for
McKay (first name in tree) as Leona L. Butler's Mother (Nora) here.
IT CANNOT BE THE SAME Leona L. Butler in Cherokee Roll based on death date conflict among other things.
It could be number 1, but this is not a person in a census in 1880, which she should be in if born in 1882, according to TBE aka James Oliver Johnson, III.
Notice the Submitters have 2 different husbands for Leona L. Butler: Butler or Martin
From rootsweb ancestry link we have: (sent by TBE):
Native American Data for Leona L Butler
Name: Butler, Leona L
Tribe: Cherokee
Record Type: enrollment
Age: 18
Sex: F
Enrollment Type: BB (By Blood)
Blood %: 1/2
Card No.: 1801
Roll No.: 4760
Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, Texas, who compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its National Archives
Others with this Family:
Surname First Name Type Sex Age Blood %
Butler Darcus P (Parent) F
Butler Eli P (Parent) M
McKay Charlotte P (Parent) F
Butler Aaron BB (By Blood) M 43 1/2
Butler Nora BB (By Blood) F 42 1/2
Butler Leona L BB (By Blood) F 18 1/2
Butler Emmett BB (By Blood) M 12 1/2
Butler Charles C BB (By Blood) M 6 1/2
Charlotte McKay Not Nora McKay.
Aaron Butler as likely spouse of Nora Butler. (Maiden name therefore Unknown, or Charlotte McKay as mother of Leona L. Butler? Leona is listed as 1/2 Cherokee.
There is NO Leona McKay in the 1880 Census found.
Finally, NO MARY WATTS found in Tahlequh, Cherokee, or Cherokee Nation, OKLAHOMA.
There IS a Leona Butler in the 1900 Census as a Daughter in Cherokee Census with:
William Butler 1/2 Black or white
Leona L. 1/2 Black or white
Emmet C. 1/2 Black or white
Charles C. 1/2 Black or white
The other info says that
Aaron Butler is the Husband. In this one she is the brother and sister of those listed above on one page and previous page daughter of
Aaron H. 1/4 Cherokee, b. Apr 1858 in I.T. Father was b. GA Mother b. GA
Nora S. 1/2 Cherokee, b. Oct 1857 in I.T., Father b. UNK (White), Mother b. GA
Married 28 years. Aaron Butler is a Farmer.
(There is no Elijah (Reverand Elowhie Butler as per TBE found, as father of Aaronbut may be found in GA? Need to do search.
However, the BIGGEST error is that Leona DID NOT DIE in NY! in 1926. (According to the IGI records above, if correct.)
There are many Leona L. Butler names at
www.labs.familysearch.org/ This Leona L. Butler cannot be TBE's great grandmother, wife of James Oliver Johnson I.
There is a L.L. Johnson, as daughter of a A. H. & L.M. Johnson, b. 1887 in NY at the labs link, and lived in Edinboro Borough, Erie PA in 1900. TBE says his Leona L. Butler, wife of James Oliver Johnson of Washington, PA and died Erie PA, died in Ny, NY in 1926...
Needs lots more research for Leona and the other names in TBE's Powerpoint "family tree".
Oneh
Niiki from Tyendinaga Mohawk Territory
[Al's note-deleted social security numbers.]
