Author Topic: Tecumseh Brown Eagle, aka Abdul Abdulla Mohammed, & James Oliver Johnson 111,  (Read 533833 times)

Offline NanticokePiney

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This is a link to Lost Feathers, a black Indian site that has all of the myths that TBE bases his claims on...
http://members.tripod.com/pointingbird/lostfeatherintl/id35.htm



 I know all about it. I've been threatened by many of them for mocking them constantly. They can't play the race card with me cause I'm half Cheswold Nanticoke. Ooooh they tried though... :D
  I'm not saying this guy is Indian. I think he's a liar and a fraud. I'm just stating what I know about the Nanticoke and Rappahannock Johnsons
  DNA tests are only maternal lines and with inbreeding, like with the Nanticoke they give some funky results.
 If you are "old line" African American though. You probably have a Indian ancestor somewhere. That is how the slave trade and "free communities of color" worked.
 

Offline Don Naconna

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The fact is that yes some black folks from the eastern US and the southeast do have some Indian blood, but it is distant and a small amount. Those folks usually have identifed themselves as light skinned black or mulatto for generations until it became popular and profitable to identify with distant Indian ancestors. Yes there was significant race mixing in colonial America, and Indians were enslaved along with black Africans, and indentured whites. The best source of information on that period of American history is Red, Black and White: The Peopling of Colonial America, by Gary B. Nash. The fact is, DNA can identify Indian blood lines means that many black people who claimed to have discernible blood have been proven not to. Some black mixed Indians do have sufficient blood to enroll in their nations, however, no nations accept the Washitaw/Nuwaubian "theories" as evidence of Indian blood. TBE tries to play on both sides, a black Nuwaubian Muslim to blacks, and a new ager to white new agers. He still makes money selling memberships to his "tribe" ($25.00 US) which probably includes a custom made genealogy, like his. Every black American could make the same claims as TBE of that was accepted by Indian/aboriginal people. That would make Chief TBE very wealthy (25.00 x 40,000,000) that would put TBE up there with Oprah. The real issue is not just TBE and his group, but all the others and others still to come, who prey on black people's compulsion to find a true identity and their religious fervour.
I believe that Niiki has done a great job of connecting all the dots showing the real master plan, educatedindian has done an excellent job of refuting TBE's ridiculous genealogical claims, I have tried to present information from my files on all of the black Indian cults and their ties to TBE. Now its up to folks to put the word out on TBE and his fellow frauds who DO play and live by, the race card, and the parasites who live off them, out to folks on and off the internet. The best weapon against frauds is an informed public, so let's keep our public informed...

Offline NanticokePiney

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The real issue is not just TBE and his group, but all the others and others still to come, who prey on black people's compulsion to find a true identity and their religious fervour.
I believe that Niiki has done a great job of connecting all the dots showing the real master plan, educatedindian has done an excellent job of refuting TBE's ridiculous genealogical claims, I have tried to present information from my files on all of the black Indian cults and their ties to TBE. Now its up to folks to put the word out on TBE and his fellow frauds who DO play and live by, the race card, and the parasites who live off them, out to folks on and off the internet. The best weapon against frauds is an informed public, so let's keep our public informed...

 Amen to that. I've been refuting these "Cherokees" with Nuwabian ties in the Delaware Valley for a long time.
  TBE needs a nice jail cell. I've said that for years. 

Offline educatedindian

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Johnson certainly does not belong on the Erie Human Rights Commission, not with such openly racist views, and with his denial of the slave trade as bad as someone Jewish claiming the Holocaust never happened. Has anyone contacted them? Has anyone brought this up in the local papers in Erie, or talked to reporters and urged an expose of him?

Has anyone contacted the local agencies involved in approving this gaming project? If he's claiming to potential investors it's possible for the EMBT to get a casino, that's pretty clear cut fraud, making false claims for a project that has no hope of ever being aproved. Short of giving so much in contributions that politicians at the federal level overlook the lies about EMBT being NDN and sidestep the BIA recognition branch, they will never get recognition. I suppose it's possible they (or Rubino and others) will try for a casino, and then simply use the EMBT for window dressing to claim it's NDN owned or run.

If anyone has contact information for these agencies, newspapers, reporters, etc, please post. And law enforcement contacts. If you'd prefer, send by IM to those interested.

Offline educatedindian

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Hopson finally tried to send some of the alleged proof of Johnson's claims. Unfortunately the documents didn't come through, and I urged her to resend them. She also had some other things to say, which I responded to. First is her email, followed by my response.

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SOME OF CHIEF TECUMSEH BROWN-EAGLES PROOF FILE
 
Attached are the following:   Birth Certificate "Tecumseh Brown-Eagle"; Parents Death Certificates; Gannon Univ
                                          Article; Shriner Certificate;
 
Naconna,  you know very well yourself from living in PA. that having the PA. Government "alter or falsify" documents is not something you are able to do by "knowing the right person or bribing someone", as Niiki tried to convince others of.  They have strict guidelines, and require a lot of verification as do many states.  These documents are legal, if you still have a question as to their validation then we suggest you contact the issuer for confirmation.  As a matter of fact, we invite you to contact any and all that .........one or all three of you have suggested in the forum, including the FBI.
 
NOTE:  You will see as you read the Gannon University Newspaper article that it was a Catholic Priest that peaked the Chief's interest in Islam.  NOT.... something he learned in prison as Niiki posted!
 
We feel the method you use to seek the "truth" is not the Native way.  You would have been able to receive this information (and more) much earlier if you had initially contacted Chief Tecumseh Brown-Eagle personally.  Upon giving him proof of yourselves and why you are questioning him, there would have been no issue at all.  To allow someone who uses their own personal agenda to incite such "character defamation" and to waste all of our time, should never be acceptable. 
 
The information posted by Niiki regarding roll numbers, etc. etc. is inaccurate, the research on the Chief's lineage was extensive and not completed with just information taken from online.  eg. James Newton Johnson is Newton Johnson, just because only part of his name was on the rolls means nothing.  The rolls have never claimed to be exact, many errors were made. Both of his parents, all four of his grandparents and all 8 of his great-grandparents, and on and on..... were NAI.  NOTE:  Obituaries, Notification of Death etc., are not printed nor keyed by family members.  For Niiki to pick apart something like that is incredulous. 
 
Your misinformation regarding Greg Rubino is also completely wrong.  As he stated "he has never been in trouble with the law".
 
The rest of the Chief's information will be posted on his website in the near future, including his lineage and Roll numbers.  Everything he claims is the absolute truth and.... he has nothing, nothing to hide, he is an open book, just as Greg Rubino is.   
 
We request from you both your information and legal proof of your background, as well as Niiki's email address and information.
 
We also request a public apology from all three of you.
 
ps.  THIS makes absolutely no sense to me........... first..... one or all three of you claim that Chief Tecumseh Brown-Eagle is a "Black Supremest", then pretty much in the next statement..... one or all three of you say "he should accept that he is black". I would think that a "Black Supremest" would be pushing the fact he is black down peoples throats so to speak.  A "Black Supremest" would not claime to be anything other than black.  eg. In comparison it would be the same as stating that a member of the KKK should stop claiming he is something else and should accept the fact that he is white.  Wouldn't a member of the KKK state that he IS none other than white??? 
 
Birth Certif TBE.jpg
 
TBE Mothers DEATH CERTIF.jpg
 
TBE Fathers DEATH CERTIF.jpg

GANNON PAPER KARATE ARTICLE large print.jpg
 
SHRINERS Certificate.jpg
 
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Hello Ms. Hopson,
 
As you can see below, absolutely none of your documents came through successfully. They are not viewable.
 
You may resend them as attachments if you wish.
 
I also urge all of you to do better research so you quit continually making yourselves look foolish. Don Nakonna's actual name is not Lewis Tonne. I have no idea where you got that name, since his actual name is, like mine, a matter of public record he has never hidden. He also does not live in Pennsylania. I will forward this email to him.
 
Who I am is a matter of public record and I have never hidden it. Mr. Johnson is actually the first New Age exploiter to ever have trouble finding out information on me.
 
Though, to be clearer, much of what you, Ms. Hopson, have found on me is fairly obvious lies and libel from other New Age exploiters (like John Lekay) and other racists (like David Yeagley). That's why your libel was removed from the thread, and part of why you were partially banned. Should you show you can grow up and behave ethically, you would be welcome to post again. We at NAFPS have no problem with giving exploiters and their supporters enough rope to hang themselves.
 
Mr. Johnson is also welcome to come and speak on his own behalf. That he does not, and always sends you, seems rather cowardly, not to mention condescending and sexist towards you Ms. Hopson.
 
And it should be fairly obvious to all of you that a number of Six Nations people have long been in contact with law enforcement over Mr. Johnson's fraud.
 
You also do yourselves no favor by lying yet again. Mr. Rubino has a long history of dealing with the FBI. That's a matter of public record, stated in open court by a retired FBI agent under oath. The only question is if Mr. Rubino has been shielded from prosecution for possibly being an informant.
 
Finally, the call for an apology is ridiculous and certainly undeserved. I have done nothing wrong. I will let Don and  Nikki speak for themselves, but I'd guess their responses will be the same.
 
In the strongest terms, I urge the following:
 
You, Ms. Hopson, to apologize for libel, lies, spamming, personal attacks, and other abusive behavior on the forum and for your support of a fraud, imposter, and racist, namely Mr. Johnson.
 
Mr. Rubino to apologize for working with and promoting a fraud and racist, namely Mr. Johnson, and for working to undermine American Indian tribal sovereignty by working with Johnson, all done for hoped for profits that will almost certainly never come.
 
Mr. Johnson to apologize for:
1, His abuse and threats towards Six Nations elders
2. His passing off another's genealogy as his own
3. Fabricating falsehoods about American Indian, Six Nations, and Erie history
4. Taking a name he no right to, Tecumseh. He should legally change his name back to a non-Native one.
5. His racism towards American Indians for promoting the false Moorish Science/Nuwaubian/Washitaw conspiracy theories claiming that Africans are the true Natives.
6. His self hating racism towards Blacks for denying the existence of the Atlantic slave trade.
 
7. Johnson should also cease all efforts towards obtaining tribal recognition and a casino by fraud, not only for it being unethical, but simply to keep himself out of prison.
 
Your email and my response will be forwarded to all parties involved.
 
It will also be posted online for all to see.
 
Should you choose to resend the documents, they will remain confidential as you requested earlier. In more than ten years, NAFPS has never broken a promise of confidentiality.

Offline Don Naconna

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PA birth certificates do not state race, I know, I'm looking at mine right now, and it lists date of birth, county, name and sex. So that is no proof anything, certainly not race of ethnicity. In other words, nothing to indicate that TBE or his parents have any Indian blood. What is the basis of his claim to having Indian blood, or being a chief of a tribe that no longer exists. Educatedindian, Niiki and myself have provided enough proof that TBE is a liar and a fraud. Let us say, that anyone who sells memberships in a non existant, no recognised tribe is a fraud. Anyone is follows a fraud is either a victim or also a fraud.
As to his racism, is he or is he not a member of the Nation of Islam, does he or does he not believe in the "evil scientist Jacov" inventing the "white devils", does he not believe that he is descended from the so called "ancient ones". Please, you have been duped, Ms. Hopkins. You are just one very naive white person, who hasn't got a clue or any concept of reality. Perhaps, TBE will take you back to his moe planet the next time he goes to Rizq.

Offline Don Naconna

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PA birth certificates do not state race, I know, I'm looking at mine right now, and it lists date of birth, county, name and sex. So that is no proof anything, certainly not race of ethnicity. In other words, nothing to indicate that TBE or his parents have any Indian blood. What is the basis of his claim to having Indian blood, or being a chief of a tribe that no longer exists. Educatedindian, Niiki and myself have provided enough proof that TBE is a liar and a fraud. Let us say, that anyone who sells memberships in a non existant, no recognised tribe is a fraud. Anyone is follows a fraud is either a victim or also a fraud.
As to his racism, is he or is he not a member of the Nation of Islam, does he or does he not believe in the "evil scientist Jacov" inventing the "white devils", does he not believe that he is descended from the so called "ancient ones". Please, you have been duped, Ms. Hopkins. You are just one very naive white person, who hasn't got a clue or any concept of reality. Perhaps, TBE will take you back to his moe planet the next time he goes to Rizq.

Ms. Hopson has sent me copies of TBE's parents death certificates which list their race (s) as American Indian. I believe that those documents have been altered. I will defer to educatedindian who has experience with documents and authentification. Unless TBE has a CDIB card or is a member of a recognised tribe or nation, he is not an Indian, certainly not base on his falsified geneaology or Washitaw/Nuwaubian mythology. Ms. Hopson do not send me any more emails, I have blocked your address. If you or TBE has something to present, bring to the forum.

Offline educatedindian

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Birth and death certificates are notoriously INaccurate when it comes to Natives. Some states wouldn't list Natives at all, some it was based on what the person reporting assumed, or what a family member said. Sometimes Blacks and Indians would each claim to be the other hoping to get lesser discrimination, especially true in the northeast US. At best it might indicate what Johnson's parents told him, or what they in turn had heard from family.

The scan of Johnson's birth certificate that Hopson sent me has his birth name as Tecumseh Brown Eagle, not James Oliver Johnson III. Obviously it's not the original, so it's useless. In fact it was issued only a month ago. So when Hopson and Johnson were claiming to have so much proof many months ago, they were lying.

And the "proof" is no such thing. No race listed for Johnson. Which itself is very strange. I suppose Hopson or Johnson's defense will be that the legal name change altered the name and everything else is the same as the original. In the year Johnson was born most states listed race on birth certificates.

The alleged death certificate of his mother is stranger. It lists Johnson as "informant" indicating he provided the information. Again, this makes it useless since he's the source of information on the document. There's not even a place to indicate "informant" on the father's death certificate. Obviously either the forms used are different, the county switched to newer ones, or one of the documents may be false.

Hopson also sent an old Nov 6 1989 article where Johnson goes by the name Abdul and claims to the reporter to be training for the 1990 Olympics. A lot of it's blurred and smeared, but the end of the article is a promo for a martial arts school. This suggests that the reporter just passed along Johnson's promo materials of his school for the articles. Not of much use other than for repeating what Johnson has claimed.

Finally, Hopson sent a supposed certificate from the Shriners you would have to see to believe. I suppose they want us to believe he's a Mason of the highest rank based on this? It shows less than six years membership, since July 2003.

If this is the caliber of supposed "proof" they have....In any case, here's a further reply and set of excuses from Hopson.

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I am not even going to bother addressing anything you have written here other than to say "I have allowed you all to waste too much of my time.  Which is the reason the Chief has not replied to any of this.  He has his people to take care for.  Note:  He NEVER asked me to reply to any of you EVER at any time, this I did of my own accord, big mistake.... just wasted time.  Your numbers 1 to 7 are all WRONG!! 

We have requested your real name, not wasting more time looking.  If you are sooo interested go to the EIMBTN office and read the 20,000 or more documents.

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Intertesting the number of documents keeps changing, and how their claims keep changing. In an earlier post, Hopson claimed that Johnson had tried to join the forum several times.

...and how incompetent they are at research. They must be the only ones here who can't find my name, or Don's.

And here's something interesting. Johnson has been a member of NAFPS for two years, joined way back in March 2007. This was long before we ever began posting on him .

But he's never posted, not even to defend himself. I wonder if he's lied to Hopson about that for some reason, or if Hopson is the one lying?

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And here's something interesting. Johnson has been a member of NAFPS for two years, joined way back in March 2007. This was long before we ever began posting on him .

But he's never posted, not even to defend himself. I wonder if he's lied to Hopson about that for some reason, or if Hopson is the one lying?

Johnson & Hopson are both liars!!


Niiki from Tyendinaga Mohawk Territory

Offline Don Naconna

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TBE must be insane if he believed anyone who could read would believe those documents. He was not born "Tecumseh Brown Eagle" so that was altered, his birth certificate would be in his birth name, even if you change your name legally you cannot change your birth certificate. Also race is not listed on PA birth certificates. His parents death certificates are also altered, even the font is different for the words "American Indian". If he does have authentic documentation, why doesn't he have a CDIB, as he claims to be 'pure' blood Indian, and oh yeah (I love this) 'pure blood' Metis. BTW there are groups or people claiming to be Metis in the US who have nothing to do with the Metis people who are recognised in Canada, as a mixed blood indigenous people. My question to Hopson and TBE is now that you have been exposed, what is your agenda? You will be discredited in any association you try to make with aboriginal Canadians, you have been disavowed by the Mohawk and Six Nations people. Clearly aboriginal people don't accept anything you say you are, so what are you going to do next.  ???

Offline Don Naconna

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I just discovered this SciFi group in Wisconsin that is associated with TBE. If these people are real or even from this planet, please phone ET...

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/scificafe.html


Offline educatedindian

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I should add to what Don said, Johnson's mother's death certificate has a lot of strange items. There are three different font sizes used to type in the information. "American Indian" under "Race" is distinct from the others. There are at least three different handwritings on the form, not just for signatures but for handwritten information where it's otherwise typed. It's possible I suppose that the form went through a number of different people and even different agencies, but that multiplies the possibilities of someone making a mistake. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's definitely altered, but it does look extremely suspicious. The father's death certificate is more consistent, two font sizes and only one handwriting, and none of the information is written in by hand.

Why the huge difference, esp since they died in the same county not too many years apart? If Johnson or Hopson have an explanation, I'd like to hear it. And I'm certain we'll hear from them again. Hopson sent me what she claims is Johnson's original birth certificate. I'll ask for her permission to forward it to Don, though I wouldn't be surprised if we get more excuses.

For someone who claims to not care what we think, they're going to a lot of effort. A final note: After all the elaborate demands about privacy and promises to keep information confidential, Hopson says they're going to post everything online at the EMBT site, along with "20,000 documents" supporting their claims. But if these are their strongest docs...

Offline Don Naconna

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It is strange that on the birth certificate data posted on both of TBE's parents and grandparents their races were all listed as "Black" not "coloured" as was sometimes done. Had they been listed as "coloured" or "mulatto", there is a possibility of them having some Indian or white ancestry, but they were clearly listed as "black" or with no discernible non African ancestry. Plecker, in Virginia in the '20s listed many Virginia Indians as "colored" or "mulatto", so that he could declare the state to be "Indian free". This meant the extinction of the  Virginia tribes. TBE can't claim that happened to his grandparents because they were black!
I have no doubt that those documents were altered, and it would be illegal to enter them into any federal of state agency for authentification. What I would like to know more about is his familial ties to the "Royal families of Europe before 1560". Where did this supposed contact happen, it must have been in Africa, because there were no royal families here then, or does he claim that his ancestors were Spanish colonists who slaughtered the Arawak, Ciboney, Taino and Caribe peoples, before pillaging the mainland. Great family line, conquistadors!
TBE claims to be educated and even a graduate of Gannon University, how can he expect anyone with a basic knowledge of history to believe his fictional family history! He proves the words of P.T. Barnum, "There's a sucker born every minute".

Offline Superdog

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Here's an interesting piece of news...it isn't TBE, but it's about a man who claimed to be "Chief Soaring Eagle" of the "Sovereign Cherokee Nation" and was operating out of Erie, PA.  He's now been prosecuted and plead guilty to fraud and awaiting sentencing.

Similar circumstances, similar area of the country...wonder if TBE got his idea from this guy....
have a read...interesting.

http://indiancountrynews.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6568&Itemid=109

Offline Don Naconna

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TBE is not the only fraud out there. TBE invented a tribe, the Erie have not been a tribe since the 17th century. He claims to be Cherokee and Erie as well as a "chief of 39 tribes", but he can't name one!