taken from black on black crime coalition
BLACK ON BLACK CRIME STATISTICS
While African Americans comprise 13.5% of the U.S. Population, 43% of all murder victims in 2007 were African American, 93.1% of whom were killed were African Americans.
Victimizations of African Americans from violent crime which include the following; rape/sexual assault, robbery, aggravated and simple Assault was 24.3% in 2007, with the highest percentages of victimizations within the age ranges of 15-24 totaling a percentage greater than 38%.
Would someone please tell me what this biased statistic has to do with the freedmen or th CNO. NOTHING! This was sent to me by Rattlebone to somehow justify his position on the freedmen. This is clearly racist in both its intent and to has nothing to do with the freedmen. That is why I have posited allalong that this is about race not about sovereignty. Because people believe the stereotypes they want to exclude black freedmen from the CNO. A questionm how many black people are you folks in touch with, and how do you think they would react if you sent you don't support the freedmen because black people are violent criminals. Thats racism!
You know, you have a nasty habit of omitting parts of conversations or ignoring certain aspects of things just so you can push your agenda.
It really doesn't surprise me that you would try and pull this BS here that you are now doing. Of course you left out the full content of that private conversation, and did not bother to put here why I pointed out those statistics, just like you failed to tell everyone here how you told me "Indians are the most violent people in the United States."
I gave those statistics to you because you kept point out how "bad the freedmen have it," and were saying so in private to try and almost make it look as they were still being treated like slaves; even to the point you try and make it seem as if they have it worse then the average person of African American ancestry. Of course you say a lot of that here as well, so it should be no surprise to anyone.
From there I pointed out how Native Women are assaulted, raped, and murdered at a much higher rate then other women in the United States, and that this most almost always at the hands of NON Natives. Should be no surprise that crime against Native women most often comes from white men.
I then showed you statistics showing how in the Black community, black on black crime is a huge problem. The sources I cited to you actually came from a website ran by black people who are trying to end this problem.
It was at this point where you made the statement about how "Indians were the most racist people in the United States" or something to that effect.
Then you tried to blame the violence against Native women on Native men in such a way as to indicate that Native men are the biggest offenders of this crime. On the contrary it is NON Indians who are the biggest offenders of it.
Even the crimes against Native women on reservations could possibly be blamed on NON Indians since many reservations today have their land being mostly owned by NONS, and even have at times more NONS on the reservation then actual tribal members.
All of these things are facts based on statistics. You can try and cry racism or foul for me pointing them out to you, and say that they are made up by racist white men or any other argument you can come up with. In that case, I think you just need to take off your tinfoil hat that makes you cry racism and conspiracy towards everyone else; when in reality your failure to address every aspect of the issue at hand while continually blasting Cherokee/white mixed people shows the true racism may be actually coming from you.
If you wish to point out things I said, please do so in the full context of what was said, and not just pick out certain part of a conversation to try and make it seem as if I was saying things I did not say.
Furthermore, I did share the full conversation you and I had with others on here, and so I am sure they could also agree I was at no time being racist towards anyone.
That is why I have posited allalong that this is about race not about sovereignty
You are a total hypocrite and a big fat liar!!
In the course of this argument, most of us have been very supportive of both tribal sovereignty, and people of black/Indian heritage.
Anyone who knows me can tell you that for the most part I am against the concept of BQ, and do not view other Indians in terms of color. Where I live I know Indians that look black, white, and of course full blooded Indian. I see them all as Indian, and all as family.
Ever single person in this thread with the exception of YOU has spoken things that indicate they see things the same way. At no time has anyone ever said that people of mostly black heritage enrolled in the Cherokee Nation or any other Indian nation is not Indian and should not have membership.
On the contrary, you have constantly blasted white looking Indians, and all have seen you do such in blanket statements. Blanket statements in my eyes equal both racism and ignorance.
You have also consistently failed to address my points about the issue of disenrollment in tribes in which people who were mostly Indian were being disenrolled. Just like you failed to address why the CBC has also not said a word about those cases, and yet only focuses on an Indian issue of membership when black people are involved.
So it is as clear as the sun on clear summer day, that in regards to this issue; you are all about race.
Because people believe the stereotypes they want to exclude black freedmen from the CNO.
At no time has one single person done or said such a thing in any of the conversations in this thread. Just like I said no such thing in private to you either.
Had you posted up the full conversation you and I had in private, it would be dead clear to anyone that you are clearly lying through your teeth here. If not that, then your reading comprehension is poor.
You tried taking my words out of context in private even when I explained to you that you were wrong about what you were coming back at me with.
A questionm how many black people are you folks in touch with, and how do you think they would react if you sent you don't support the freedmen because black people are violent criminals. Thats racism!
You are doing nothing here but further expanding on your lies to make it seem as if I and others have said things that none of us ever have.
