Re: Kiesha Crowther - "Little Grandmother"

[Saga]

Yeah... so much for her not being in "indigenous" faking scene, as she will be in here: http://www.starknowledgeconference.com/ and her website says this about it:

Join Little Grandmother for the renowned
Star Knowledge Conference near Phoenix, AZ- a four day gathering celebrating the reunion of the Eagle and the Condor, White Buffalo Calf
Woman and Corn Woman, and the 12th dimensional frequencies of 2012.

This year, we particularly welcome many
indigenous elders from both the north and
south of Turtle Island, who are coming
to reactivate our ancient wisdom
and give guidance for our walk here on
Mother Earth. We are meeting at the
gorgeous Carefree Resort, outside of Phoenix, AZ, where stars sparkle in the night sky, and
the days are full of gentle desert breezes.

I think I remember the Chief Golden Light Eagle being part of the forum discussions too, no time to browse to it now though...

[ShadowDancer]

Here is the main thread on Golden Light Eagle

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2897.0

and the Star Knowledge Conference

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2752.0

[czech]

The organizers of her Czech seminar are now inviting attendees to bring a blossom of their favorite flower to be put around Kiesha on the stage.

http://www.vstupenkov.cz/FileStorage/LGM_informace.pdf (the bold sentence in the middle of page)

Normally we do this at funerals...

[czech]

Photos from Kiesha Crowther's event in Prague, Czech Republic:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.351836114896783.85000.156460114434385&type=1

[Autumn]

Grrr!  She just makes me so angry.  She continues to rake it in with her false history, her seminars, and her book sales.  People are just so gullible.   (But then, "it is the message, not the messenger" or/but "earth mother is crying out for our help" or/but "just ignore all the negativity and stay in your heart").

Maybe she will step on a poison piece of glass:  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=351836391563422&set=a.351836114896783.85000.156460114434385&type=3&theater

Well, I guess I just flunked the test (I didn't stay positive).  I truly do believe, however, that all the plastic shamans and new age frauds do more harm to individuals than all the criminals combined by sending people on a wild-goose chase and wasting their precious time when they should just be enjoying life.

[Superdog]

Here's a post reiterating stuff we already know.  It contains an e-mail from Robert McDonald, Communications director for the CSKT.

http://www.scoop.it/t/messenger-for-mother-earth/p/1217316182/little-grandmother-kiesha-crowther-hoax

"     I send a question about Kiesha Crowther to this e-mail address robertmc@cskt.org and received the following answer:

"In recent months, employees of the Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes began receiving numerous phone calls and emails regarding someone who claims to be a shaman, who claimed to receive their training from a Salish elder named Falling Feather. This self-proclaimed shaman, Kiesha Crowther, who calls herself Little Grandmother, first came to our attention because of these calls. We have no record of the family names she's shared in her biographical posts on the Internet.
To make it clear to others who contact this Tribal nation, the Salish and Kootenai have absolutely no connection to Kiesha Crowther. Her numerous video talks posted online are not based in any kind of authentic knowledge from this tribe.

We have been contacted by people from Hawaii, Spain, Denmark, Switzerland and Germany who appear to have given her great fees to speak. Zero dollars from those arrangements have come to support our language, culture, or safety net programs of this reservation. At best, she is a stranger to us. At worst, she has used our name to promote a profitable image. "

Robert McDonald
Communications Director -- CSKT
robertmc [at] cskt.org
406-675-2700, Ext. 1222
cellular 406-249-1818

    Pi-Qui
http://www.cineversity.tv/"


Superdog

[Autumn]

This is driving me nuts.  Does anyone know who this woman is?  (I attached two photos, so I hope they show up). They came from this site:  http://www.heart4earth.nl/photo-gallery/72157629304595789.html

She appeared with LG at her two events in Holland this year.  At the last one in June (Crystal Ceremony), she presented the crystal to LG with great ceremony, bowing low to her.  LG said the crystal had been hidden since the last pole shift and passed on from "wisdom keeper to wisdom keeper and shaman to shaman" and had been held by the Mayans and that this lady was a Mayan.  Do Mayans really dress like that?  The crystal was wrapped in a light blue cloth and when LG unwrapped it, she said it had not been uncovered for "hundreds and hundreds of years" (I swear, that is what she said and the 1400 people in the audience did not burst out laughing!)

I would really love to know if anyone can shed any light on the identity of this woman.

[Ingeborg]

The fotos were taken at a lecture done by Crowther on Feb 11, 2012 in the town of Zeist/Netherlands. Crowter is the only lecturer mentioned, so I presume the woman on the fotos is from the audience.

The ad for Crowther's lecture is quite interesting, though:
http://www.earth-matters.nl/14/4316/media-en-agenda/kiesha-crowther-little-grandmother-terug-in-nederland-11-februari-in-zeist.html?limit=300

Translation:
„Keisha Crowther already came to the Netherlands twice before. We are glad to be able to receive her again on February 11. She will bring us important messages especially for present times.

Keisha is known as Little Grandmother; a name which she was given when, at the age of 30, she was initiated by her teachers in the Indian culture of the Sioux and Salish. As a child, she already received special messages and lessons from the ancestors. It is her task to share her knowledge she received by Mother Earth and the ancestors with humankind. She is one of the most important „Wisdom Keepers“ of this movement and one of the founders of the „Tribe of Many Colors“."

[Emphasis mine]

[Defend the Sacred]

I don't think the traditional descendants of the Maya wear white saris. Wrong kind of Indian.

[Autumn]

I thought she looked more like the wrong kind of Indian also, Kathryn. 

Ingeborg, I don't know anything about the lecture you mentioned, but I do know that this woman appeared with LG at at least two events put on by Heart4Earth in Holland.  Heart4Earth appears to be a business that organizes events for people like LG and handles all the ticket sales, location, logistics, etc.  They listed people like David Icke and Michael Beckwith as people they have handled events for, but it appears that LG and a man named Carlos Palada (supposedly a Mayan) is the only person they have handled events for during 2012.  On their website:  http://www.heart4earth.nl/ they posted the photos of several events they put on for LG and one event for Carlos Palada.  The photos I posted were from an event they have labeled as 11-2-12, which is obviously a typo since that date has not yet occurred.  I am assuming they meant it to say 11-2-11.  There is no video of that event, but the woman I was questioning about appears with LG in photos (the ones I posted).  Also, there are several photos of Carlos Palada also appearing at LG's event.  He is wearing a stripped poncho.   

The same woman appears in the video for the June 16 crystal ceremony, as I previously mentioned, and presented the crystal to LG.  I just thought perhaps someone would recognize her so that is why I posed the question.  She was definitely not a member of the audience.  If she was at the February event as you mentioned, she is traveling with LG to all her Holland events and perhaps other events as well.

Maybe at some point in the future, someone will recognize this woman and will able to shed some light on the issue (my first thought was that perhaps it was LG's mom).  LG simply introduced her as a "Mayan" who had been holding the sacred crystal safe for "hundreds and hundreds" of years (well, maybe not the same person holding it for hundreds and hundreds of years, but a long, long, long, line of people holding it for hundreds and hundreds of years and she was the current "holder of the crystal").

[ShadowDancer]

The photos I posted were from an event they have labeled as 11-2-12, which is obviously a typo since that date has not yet occurred.  I am assuming they meant it to say 11-2-11. 

Actually the date is correct and is not a typo.  The event was in Holland, hence the European date convention which is day/month/year, unlike in the USA of month/day/year.  So yes, the photos are from February 2, 2012.   

[Autumn]

Actually the date is correct and is not a typo.  The event was in Holland, hence the European date convention which is day/month/year, unlike in the USA of month/day/year.  So yes, the photos are from February 2, 2012.   

Yes, ShadowDancer, you are right.  That always catches me up, but it was not February 2, 2012, as you said, but  February 11, 2012, so it is not for the same event that Ingeborg mentioned, but for the Heart4Earth event.

[tecpaocelotl]

And speaking of Mayan, just depends which community you're talking about:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/citlali/311182010/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/csbsjuoea/4725038108/

[Autumn]

Not that it really matters, but something appears to be happening on the LG front.  Betsey Lewis is no longer doing her website.  It is now done by Dragonfly Dimensions.  The only thing I could find online under Dragonfly Dimensions was a blog by that name and a website for someone by the name of Sandra Zahn who is an "Art Therapist, Breathworker and Rhythm Facilitator throughout the United States, consulting for educational systems, social service agencies and particularly Native American communities." 

The other thing is that LG has cancelled all appearances for the rest of the year.  I certainly do not wish her any ill will, but personally I would think that the performance she gave in Holland would take its toll on a person.  That was certainly some performance.   If you have the stomach for it, the whole two-and-a-half hour ceremony is posted on YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMmZgOUo9wc  (At mark 18.37, you can see the "Maya" dressed in a sari present the crystal to her).

[secondsight]

Just came across a page on her website that says she is moving to Holland and not coming back to the US.

Guess her profit margin is the strongest there.

She seems to have developed a strange method of staring at the crowd...kinda creepy.

Almost like an actor overdoing a role as a magican!