Turquoise Marble Teaching Center: Warren Redwing Ramey

[Johnnie]

Folks, got an inquiry from a fellow tribal member about a place called Turquoise Marble Teaching Center and its association with a guy by the name of Warren Redwing Ramey.  Anyone know anything about it?

Found this blog post from someone who is involved but it is 2007.

http://alchemiss.blogspot.com/2008_11_01_archive.html

and this:

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=210731088372&topic=15721

Supposedly it is in Batesville Indiana which is an hour south of Indy.

And this on Ramey:

http://www.sunray.org/dotnetnuke/EldersGathering/PeaceVillageElders/tabid/156/Default.aspx

Thanks and if I missed something about these issues I apologize, I sometimes search all over the house for my keys when they are in my pocket.

Johnnie

[educatedindian]

He's online mostly as one of the "elders" promoted by fraud Diane Fisher/Dhyani Yawahoo, who runs the Sunray Cherokee cult out in Vermont.

Found him listed as living in both Brevard NC and North Port FL or Jupiter FL. He's in his 70s.

This is Ramey, far left.
http://www.homeplanet.org/june2902/tree2.htm

As you can see, the caption lists him as of the United Lumbee Nation NC Woodland Band. United Lumbee are a fraud outfit that's given the actual Lumbee quite a bit of problems. We have a thread on them.

The author talks about him in some clumsy TontoSpeak mixed with Nuage buzzwords.

"I was especially surprised to see my friend Chief Warren Ramey of the Cherokee Nation had come from Indiana in the United States to bring honour to our ceremony. He arrived with his helper Steven and his daughter Virginia. I say I was surprised but I was not really. Uncle Warren and I had met at a ceremony in Coba Mexico last March, and we had agreed to Plant the Tree of Peace in Toronto together. I was not certain he would be there, but I was so happy to see him there. He was acknowledged in the right way both by Chief Tom Bressette and Elder Vern Harper as they included him in the ceremonies. I have seen this before. Being in the moment and doing things the "right way". It made my heart soar when Grandpa asked Uncle to come and stand beside him in the Blessing of the Rock. It made my heart soar when Chief Tom Bressette welcomed Uncle Warren. Our local people do not know how to be so civilized."

But most sites claim he's a chief in the "Southern Cherokee." We have a thread on them too, people claiming Cherokee ancestry in KY. He's into some distinctly un Cherokee ideas and practices.

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http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=210731088372&topic=15721
Our delegation of four messengers just got back from Missouri. It was a wonderful medicine pilgrimage, blessed with many encounters with sacred allies, to share visions and teachings. On our way in and out, we stopped at Warren Ramey's Turquoise Marble teaching center, to be blessed with wampum reading, crystal skulls meditation and sharing of wisdom. This great and respectable Cherokee elder plans to attend the Call of the Wolf.

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http://www.13hawks.com/unio_flyer.html
Prophesies of the Iroquois
Session XXX
April 15, 16 and 17, 2011
Camp Bountiful 4861 Limerick Road Jackson, Ohio 45640 740.988.2373
The United Nation in Ohio is a group of Peoples who have united to honour the Creator and each other by keeping alive the traditions and heritage of American Indians....
Warren Ramey, Cherokee, refers to himself as the old country boy! He has been a band chief, a principal chief and is presently a member of the elders council for the Southern Band of the Cherokee. His teachings are Cherokee based and he has traveled through out the world. He says he believes he talks the truth.

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Grandfather Warren Redwing Ramey, Cherokee elder
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Laura Ann Shurts, Ph.D., Director of Life Transformation Institute and Doctorate in
Clinical Hypnosis. Laura is the adopted daughter of Retired Chief Warren “Redwing”
Ramey and has been given the women’s teachings from Nanatasis, Abenaki Clan Mother
and other indigenous Grandmothers.
 
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[Piff]

Warren Ramey passed on in 2013:

Warren "Redwing" Eugene Ramey

( June 02, 1932 - October 19, 2013 )
Warren E. "Redwing" Ramey, age 81 of Batesville, Indiana, died Saturday, October 19th, 2013, at the University Hospital in Cincinnati, Ohio. Born June 2, 1932 in Indianapolis, Indiana, he is the son of Wilma (Nee: Dill) and Mitchell Ramey. Warren was a member of the 107th Armored Calvary Regiment during the Korean War and during his working years was an Electrician with IBEW Local 212 and the Marshall of Latonia Lakes, Kentucky. He was a member of the Bradford Masonic Lodge of Covington, Kentucky.

Warren’s ("Redwing's") life with his Native American heritage and Indigenous People included responsibilities of Native American Elder, Grand Elder, War Chief, Peace Chief, Cherokee Chief, Navaho Chief, Cherokee Priest, Global Spiritual Elder, Medicine Chief, past Principal Chief of the Southern Band Cherokee and Grandfather. He also was the founder of the Turquoise Marble Teaching Center in Batesville.

He is survived by his wife Kay Wise Ramey of Batesville; daughters Robin Covington of Florence, Kentucky, Karen Malott of Ryland Heights, Kentucky, Jill Karst of Florence, Kentucky, Arlene Starost of Batesville; adopted Cherokee daughter Laura Shurts of Dayton, Ohio; sister Ellen Sauer of Ely, Minnesota; brother Johnny Angel of Crossville, Tennessee; ten grandchildren and four great-grandchildren. In addition to his parents, he was preceded in death by his wives Irma (Nee: Barrett) Ramey, Judith (Nee: McKay) Ramey and son Robert Ramey.

Visitation is Monday, October 28th, from 4 – 7 p.m. at the funeral home. Funeral services will follow at 7 p.m. with Dane Larsen and Mark Haverkos officiating. Military rites will be conducted by the Batesville V.F.W. Post #3183 and the Prell-Bland American Legion Post #271. A private burial will be held at the Floral Hills Memorial Gardens in Taylor Mill, Kentucky. The family requests memorials to the Planting Stick Project 809 West Riordan Road, Suite 100-245, Flagstaff, Arizona 86001

https://www.meaningfulfunerals.net/home/index.cfm?fh_id=10538&action=public:obituaries.print&id=2292445

Warren and his parents can be found in the 1940 federal census: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V11G-TFM All were listed as white on census.