Author Topic: Christopher McLeod "Red Eagle"  (Read 10382 times)

Online educatedindian

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 4770
Christopher McLeod "Red Eagle"
« on: September 07, 2005, 02:40:47 pm »
Huna & Midewin
Aboriginal Traditions of Hawaii and North America
The Twain Meet in Davis Inlet
by Christopher J. McLeod, Red Eagle
"Huna", is the traditional shamanic trainings of Hawaii. "Midewin", is a traditional way of teaching Pipe Carriers, and those who have been chosen to become healers by the healers and medicine people in the Aboriginal community in America. Midewin means, "The Way of the Heart".
I have been a Pipe Carrier for about ten years now and although I learn from all traditions and languages, I follow the Midewin Teachings because my foster father/grandfather was a Midewin Medicine Man. I did not know this until several years after his death even though I lived under the same roof. I thought all his visitors from all over the province were there to visit him because he was such a neat guy and a good trapper who had travelled far and wide. The visitors were obviously his "clients" and "patients".
I attended a training session called, The Secret to Creating Your Future® using Time Line Therapytm techniques on the recommendation of one of my teachers who is a succesful finance and real estate business man in the city of Winnipeg. I also had seen T.V. commercials about the program and knew it was a course I should evaluate.
By way of background, I have been a community development specialist for 25 years and have acted to create positive and lasting social and economic change in Inner City neighborhoods and Aboriginal communities including Metis settlements and Indian reserves. Six years ago I had discovered an excellent program which had a track record no other program has matched. However, it still had some flaws including cost, number of staff required, the long hours (12-18 for most of the five days).
I have been looking to improve the program by exploring others. It can get expensive when you attend many programs for evaluation. I had just invested into the Tony Robbins programs and was wanting to explore the rapid healing technologies of John Bradshaw, when I heard about John Tozeland's program. I was getting very selective about what programs to invest in. I decided to attend the Secret of Creating Your Future (TM) when I read about the course offering help in "getting aligned with your life's purpose".
I was amazed at the design of John's training and it's simple and immediate effectiveness in changing the meaning of past events. I feel that John Bradshaw's, program was an adaption from Time Line Therapy. During the clearing of the Time Line, it seemed as though I had been taken to the source of rapid or "accelerated" change/ that I was looking for!
My wife Doris and I, had recently been invited to assist in healing the suicidal depression occurring in Davis Inlet, Labrador. Six Innu children had attempted a group suicide by inhaling solvents. This event received international media attention. We were invited as a result of our work with one of the co-founders of the New Directions/Flying On Your Own Program, of Alkali Lake B.C. We had chosen to work with Mrs. Margaret Gilbert, exclusively because of her 15 years experience and her skills to handle and adapt to any situation in the training room. Doris, and I were so impressed with John's program and John as a person that we asked if he would join our team and experiment with an amalgamation of our program with his in Davis Inlet.
The merging of the two programs in Davis Inlet, was a resounding success. The shocker for Margaret and I was John's, teaching of Huna. The teachings were essentially those we learn in the various teachings in North America including the Midewin tradition which I follow. We had never seen the teachings done so well in a workshop setting including the use of the drum. The spiritual teachings were done with great respect, clarity and effectiveness.
Margaret, and I spoke of the teachings of Huna and joked about my accidental latching onto a White "Pipe Carrier". We were talking about Davis Inlet's request to learn about traditional teachings including the mythology and ceremonies. Margaret, and I were prepared to conduct Pipe Ceremonies, Sweats and to deal with questions as they arose. Little did we know that John's presence was to be of profound significance to the request. Specifically, we brought a Whiteman we accepted as being able to help us and this same Whiteman came with us not knowing he had already accepted our Way by his exploration and acceptance of the Aboriginal teachings of Hawaii, called Huna. This is significant because the teachings of both traditions emphasize "Acceptance". It is for this reason that we are not "missionary". After all, we are really brothers and sisters of a common Creator we call "Father" and/or "Grandfather". Out of this experience, John and I developed a 2 1/2 day program called Discovering the Power Within, healing the past and connecting with powerful inner resources. I write this article in the Spirit of Alkali Lake. My legal name is Christopher J. McLeod, and my Indian name is, Red Eagle.

Offline Barnaby_McEwan

  • Posts: 861
Re: Christopher McLeod "Red Eagle"
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2005, 03:53:16 pm »
Hi Al

Is he talking about John Bradshaw, the 90s pop-therapy guru?

http://www.stopbadtherapy.com/experts/bradshaw/homecoming.shtml

As well as the concept of the 'inner child' he allegedly coined the phrase 'dysfunctional family'. I can't think of anything more likely to scare the sh*t out of my inner child than these scary, scary eyes beaming at me.

Offline debbieredbear

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1463
  • I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
Re: Christopher McLeod "Red Eagle"
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2005, 04:43:12 pm »
Well, the "huna" is BS. And I do not believe the Midewin means way of the heart or is related to the pipe. In fact it sounded like the Anishanabe's term for their religion. So I googled it and found this:
http://www.museum.state.il.us/exhibits/midewin/meaning.html
"Meaning of Midewin  
The name Midewin (also spelled Midewiwin and Medewiwin) is derived from the term for the Grand Medicine society of the Indians of the Great Lakes Region. Tribal groups who had such curing societies include the Ojibwa, Chippewa, Ottawa, and Potawatomi, the last of whom were prominent residents of the Midewin National Tallgrass Prairie region from the mid 1700’s to the early to mid-1800’s. According to the Potawatomi, Mide’ or Mida (pronounced mid-day), means ‘mystic’ or ‘mystically powerful’ (Landes, 1970). The curing rituals performed by the members of the Midewin relied heavily on a tradition that incorporated mystical elements arising from the beliefs about the spirits that protected the A-nish’-in-a’ beg (term used by the Ottawa, Potawatomi, Ojibwa, and Menomonee to describe “the original people,???) (Hoffman, 1891).  "

The rest of the article is very informative also.

Oh, and there is this:
http://www.il66assoc.org/idx_2.htm
"This brings to mind the word Midewin which is a Potowatami word meaning "a time of healing", and it is this healing that will bring forth new life and new meaning to our Midwestern heritage."


Abd this:

http://www.prairiepages.com/midewin.html

"Midewin (pronounced mi-DAY-win; it's a Potawotomi Indian word meaning healing)"



Offline debbieredbear

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1463
  • I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
Re: Christopher McLeod "Red Eagle"
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2005, 04:45:21 pm »
Barnaby,

Speaking of "Inner Child", the Eagles have a song that has some lyrics about kicking your inner child's butt. Haha! Hope Bradshaw and this loon meet up with them and get their inner children, kicked.;)

Offline Barnaby_McEwan

  • Posts: 861
Re: Christopher McLeod "Red Eagle"
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2005, 08:26:38 am »
Quote
Barnaby,

Speaking of "Inner Child", the Eagles have a song that has some lyrics about kicking your inner child's butt. Haha! Hope Bradshaw and this loon meet up with them and get their inner children, kicked.;)


I know what you mean, I've met people who use that 'inner child' concept to avoid growing up. On the other hand, I think the sentiments in that song are extremely callous. I knew someone once whose father really had abused her throughout her life. They were still in touch and he knew she was trying to deal with the problems he'd caused her. He tried to undermine her efforts by playing that song whenever he knew she could hear it.

I think Bradshaw's brand of therapy is worse than useless, and I'm concerned that it might be used on children in a Native community where suicides are occurring.

Offline debbieredbear

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1463
  • I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
Re: Christopher McLeod "Red Eagle"
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2005, 02:04:55 pm »
I would much rather see tradtional methods used among Indian kids. Heck, even "dr.phil" would be better.

Offline C_from_Wpg

  • Posts: 12
Re: Christopher McLeod "Red Eagle"
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2008, 12:33:06 am »
I went to their "Discovering the Power Within" workshop.   :-[  Yes, I'm embarrassed to admit that.
They were sincere folks and the experience was not unpleasant, but I did not experience anything
deep, lasting, or profound.  It was a mixture of NLP and Serge King-style Huna teachings, with a
"past life" regression thrown in for good measure - sheesh!

I would much rather see tradtional methods used among Indian kids. Heck, even "dr.phil" would be better.

I agree with you, debbieredbear.

Hope throwing in my two cents helps somebody out there.

Offline wolfhawaii

  • Posts: 293
Re: Christopher McLeod "Red Eagle"
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2008, 08:59:11 am »
The  so called Huna that is passed down by Serge King and his disciples is said to be fraudulent by all the Hawaiians I have discussed it with; I have heard King lives on my island up in Princeville with the rest of the rich white folks who can afford his workshops.