Rod Baca AKA COCHISE ONE PAW

[ShadowDancer]

i dunno.....i just know some new age type events advertised him and his friend performing eagle dances at them....like i said he also made claims of being descended from cochise and geronimo who werent even mescalero so who knows.........here he is beggin for money again
 http://www.gofundme.com/1ymcpc

I notice he is using GoFundMe.  I wonder which option he used to acquire the donations.  Unlike other sites which require a goal be met or surpassed before money is released, this one allows for immediate deposit into a bank account, regardless of whether or not a goal is reached.

[Autumn]

i dunno.....i just know some new age type events advertised him and his friend performing eagle dances at them....like i said he also made claims of being descended from cochise and geronimo who werent even mescalero so who knows.........here he is beggin for money again
 http://www.gofundme.com/1ymcpc

I notice he is using GoFundMe.  I wonder which option he used to acquire the donations.  Unlike other sites which require a goal be met or surpassed before money is released, this one allows for immediate deposit into a bank account, regardless of whether or not a goal is reached.

Wow!  What a racket!  You pay for the tipi through the GoFundMe, then you rent the tipi from him for only $210 per day, plus $220 deposit (refunded if no damage detected), plus mileage.  I think I am in the wrong line of work.  All I do is go to work and collect a pay check.  Geesh!  http://www.onepaws.com/rentatipico.htm

Apparently, it is only available in Colorado, though, so anyone else contributing through GoFundMe who are not located in Colorado are out of luck.

This Tipi will be used for sacred American Indian ceremony, healing work, special events, lodging, workshops and other sacred works and will be available to the people. Being available to the people means a Facilitator can book the Tipi on my personal website for their ceremony or special event. When you book it I contact you and we confirm a date. I load up and truck the Tipi out to your desired site or I will have it set up a predetermined location. Simple as that!

  http://www.gofundme.com/1ymcpc

And the picture of the tipi he used on the GoFundMe site is made by someone else:  http://www.tipi.com/index.html, so he is not making this tipi, but buying it, and an 18' tipi can be purchased for $1,667 http://www.tipi.com/PriceList.html

[milehighsalute]

i hope this gets him on the fraud list for sure....good lookin out autumn

[milehighsalute]

besides.....since when do apaches do ceremonies in tipis?

[Cochise OnePaw]

A friend told mine told me about what is being said about me here so I decided to join in and talk with you all. There are many assumptions being made and some of your statements are not true or accurate and some indeed are true. My desire is to come here in a good way and hope that you meet me in that same way. First I would like to say thank you for bringing some things up that I have drifted from. I read everyone of your posts between you and I must say it was a eye opener for me. This is in fact just what I needed; I took a good look at myself through your eyes and your words and you make a lot of very good points. In all truth and reality words are good but action has more power and meaning. So I know what I need to do now, I need to take to huge steps back and take a good look so I can then take some good steps forward. This was like a good punch in the gut, wow, thank you I needed that! As far as the Tipi goes you guys are right, this is a Tipi for the people and I have no right to rent it out. What was I thinking? Anyway it will be available but I will only charge for gas and that's it as I can not afford to fuel my truck and hall it around.

Milehighsalute, I understand you live in the Denver area? I do as well, I invite you to meet with me so we can talk eye to eye, man to man. I say this in a good way so we can put it on the table and talk straight with no assumptions or misunderstandings. I do not care to talk about such matters in a public forum, I would rather speak man to man. Would you agree to this? Let me know and we shall meet.
Cochise

[educatedindian]

If you are sincere about wanting to change, we welcome you. I'm glad you've thought about this. Can you change?

Can you take down the Nuage type website?
Can you quit doing Nuage ceremonies for outsiders?
Will you learn the true ways and quit Sun Bear type nonsense?
Can you be Apache instead of being a generic Nuage imitation of a Plains NDN?

[milehighsalute]

can you clear up the untrue parts? all we know is what we gathered on the net

[milehighsalute]

looks like cochise is workin on changing things around his website......looks like he is trying....that earns my respect

[Cochise OnePaw]

Good morning,

Yes my my american name is Roderick Baca. My Indian name is Cochise, it is true my grandmother did name me the day I was born. OnePaw is my animal spirit name. The spirit of bear has been with me sicne I was a boy. My Uncle Bruno Strong Bear Talmadge is my elder, he is bear clan. He has been there for me and taught me much. There is only so much a man can share and teach, the rest is up the individual to walk their journey.

Thank you all for your respones! My goal is to be in good relation with all people as is yours. I welcome your input, feedback and advise.
I did not grow up on a Rez, many of my ancestors may have, my family does not have enough records. We do have a record of a ancestor who was born around 1824 from the Chiricahau Apache band in the Albuquerque NM area. Her name was Guadalupe Benevidez. As we have learned when the Apache blended in to the big Melting Pot as they called it then their names were changed by the Catholic/Christian churches. We do not know for a fact if her name was changed but we can only assume it was as was very common. Many of the Apache people now have names like Sanchez, Martinez, Benividez etc. That's a whole nother story but anyway she is the oldest ancestor my family has traced back. My mother's grandmother was full blood Hopi but she went her own way at some point so we do not know anymore than that. My mothers father was part Chiricahau and part Mescalero Apache with a trace of Italian blood. These are the ancestors on my mothers side. My father is half Mescalero Apache and half Spanish. His grandpa was born in Spain and came here to this land and had a family with Mescalero Apache Woman, Alohia. I by no means am not a full blood and have never made claims to be. I wanted to share with you a little about my ancestry.

Yes I am working on my website and being more clear about myself and what I do and making the necessary changes.

I want to ask you all your thoughts on what you do when non native people ask you for help or to be a part of their event to share the American Indian teachings and influence with the people? There are many non native people who are seeking to return to the American Indian ways and very much welcome anything I can do to help them. People are asking me to help them and share with them. I fully understand and respect that we need to keep our ways sacred and protect them; my uncle taught me that. I am Creators helper, that is all that I am, nothing more nothing less. Some day when my time comes Creator will ask me, "what did you do in service for the people and what did you do to help humanity"? I surely do not want to say I did nothing.

I am doing the best I can for the overall good and from what I know.
I will write more later, thank you,

Cochise

[Defend the Sacred]

I want to ask you all your thoughts on what you do when non native people ask you for help or to be a part of their event to share the American Indian teachings and influence with the people? There are many non native people who are seeking to return to the American Indian ways and very much welcome anything I can do to help them.

Though I am one of the non-Natives here, I would like to address this. As a non-Native, I not only grew up among white people, but I see how non-Natives behave when no Natives are around. As there is nothing about my appearance to suggest I know anything about any NDN culture, white people who are interested in NDN ways often speak more freely about their interests, motives and activities in my presence than they do when any Native people are around.

What I have found is it is very rare for non-Natives to be able to truly understand any kind of Native worldview. Most white people are firmly rooted in the idea that their personal experience, and their right to get that at any cost, is more important than the cultural survival of the communities they want to take from. Few non-Natives really want to support and respect Native ways. While some of them will learn the right things to say, usually they are just looking to learn enough so they can go and violate community standards and lead (even sell) the ceremonies they've been allowed to witness. Usually these people really believe they are good people, and they will even deceive themselves as to their true motives.

After decades of watching non-Natives approach my Native friends and relatives, and having known people who sold out and exploited what they knew, I firmly believe that it's a mistake to allow non-Native strangers to even glimpse ceremony.

As a non-Native, it is not my call what a Native spiritual leader chooses to do. But in my experience, the only non-Natives who can be trusted, to any degree, are the ones who have truly become part of the family - who have been fully adopted and/or married in, and who have shown over decades that they are part of the lifeblood of the community and are not there to exploit anyone.

Even then, it's risky. I know people who lived among the people for a few years, and are now out selling ceremony and trying to pass as NDN. We see people like that every day in the work we do.

As I've said before - I think those of us who are non-Native and really want to support should be perfectly happy just supporting. Or being humble and and simply praying. At ceremony, we can help in the kitchen, we can watch the children so mothers can go to ceremony, we can stay at the boundaries of the land and make sure non-Natives don't intrude. All of that is more helpful than thinking we have a right to ceremony.

You said, "There are many non native people who are seeking to return to the American Indian ways."

But look at that statement. Non-Natives can't "return" to something that was never part of their, or their ancestors', lifeways. It would not be returning, it would be taking something they were not born to and have no right to.

I think the most helpful way would be to tell them to return to the ways of their own ancestors. If they don't know who their ancestors are, they can do their genealogy and find out where their ancestors are from. If they are adopted, there are still hints in names and physical appearance. Then they can use social networking to find people from the actual culture of their ancestors, people who are preserving and reviving the Earth-honoring ways of that culture. Those ways are in danger of being forgotten, and I believe that if they try to become something they are not, while people are needed for that work, they will anger their own ancestors and things will not go well for them spiritually.

Thank you for listening.

[educatedindian]

Teaching is one thing, ceremony is another. They can learn the culture, the ethics, the philosophy, that's fine. But most ceremony is not meant for them and makes no sense for them to take part.

You need to learn what is truly Apache and what isn't. You know (or should) that there's two main Mescalero ceremonies, kinaalda and blessing the mescal pits. Kinaalda is coming of age for girls. There used to be one for boys, but hasn't been practiced since at least before my grandpa's times.

Neither ceremony is meant for you, or for me for that matter, much less for any curious whites. Curiousity or their thinking "it's cool" is not reason to want to do a ceremony. Neither is feeling lost or looking for guidance. The ceremonies are meant for who they are meant for, and no one else. The fact that I can't take part in either one doesn't bother me at all. The importance is that someone is still doing the blessing, and girls are still going through coming of age.

So don't do ceremony or teach it. For the Jicarilla dance you seem to be doing, you need to speak to elders and learn 1) is it being done right? 2) do I have the right to even do it? Learn what is Apache and what isn't. It isn't Nuage imitations of Plains tribes either, and it certainly isn't hanging out a shingle online and charging for ceremony.

Giving lectures on the culture and history are not only fine but important to do. Teaching some kinds of dances, or arts and crafts that don't have sacred meaning, that also is fine. But anyone wanting to "convert" needs to look elsewhere to find meaning. That can be from their own traditions, and even from some aspects of Christianity, rightly done.

That you want to change, and already seem to be trying, is a good sign and something I really want to see more of. I welcome that, and I think others do also. There are more than a few reformed or ex-Nuagers in here.

[milehighsalute]

i seen advertisements of "fire ceremonies" and an "eagle dance"......the zuni do an eagle dance...as well as all pueblos....i know because i am pueblo.....BUT they are done  by a holyman (who sings and sometimes is accompanied by other drummers)....and yes our eagle dance is sometimes used for exhibition....most pueblos (including zuni) choose eagle dancers by lineage.....not anyone can eagle dance......most are family wh done it for generations...like buffalo dancers or deer dancers

as far as fire ceremonies go.......5 ga'an are required (4 directions an ji'i clown)........again ga'an are selected amongst the western apaches.....i dont think there are any ga'an here in whole metro area

it was someone from your facebook who said you claimed descendency from cochise.....maybe i was misinformed....i never saw that on your site

historical accuracy and no selling of ceremony is usually all we are after.................read this whole site....not just this thread and youll see what we are up against and you can see how you popped on our radar

you seem willing to work with us.....hopefully you can be put in non-frauds section soon

[Cochise OnePaw]

Been very busy, getting back with you, thank you for your patience.
 
I have read the recent posts on this tread and when I first came to this site I read a huge amount on the "Lakota Spirituality" thread. That was very very insightful and gave me a much better understanding and broader perspective on what is going on out there.
I want to express to you that I fully will comply with what is being asked of me, to change and correct what is needed. The most important thing to me is to be in good standing with our people our tradition, culture, ceremony and teachings.
 
My uncle was right when he advised me ten years ago to keep sacred, sacred and do not give it away! I see now, that was the most valuable advice he has given me.
 
These notes I pulled from this thread have given me much clarity.
 
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educatedindian
Teaching is one thing, ceremony is another. They can learn the culture, the ethics, the philosophy, that's fine. But most ceremony is not meant for them and makes no sense for them to take part.
 
Giving lectures on the culture and history are not only fine but important to do. Teaching some kinds of dances, or arts and crafts that don't have sacred meaning, that also is fine. But anyone wanting to "convert" needs to look elsewhere to find meaning.
****

milehighsalute
historical accuracy and no selling of ceremony is usually all we are after.................read this whole site....not just this thread and you'll see what we are up against and you can see how you popped on our radar

you seem willing to work with us.....hopefully you can be put in non-frauds section soon.
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Yes I very much am willing to work with you and do all it takes to be welcomed on to the
non-fraud section.

I want to clear something up.
I have never danced the Eagle Dance and never will. There was a misunderstanding on this one. I have a friend who does the Eagle dance. He was only asked to dance at a event but he did not, so that never did happen.
 
From what I have read today here on this thread I have gained much clarity, insight and am already in the process of making the necessary changes. No one has ever explained it to me quite like this, much thanks and gratitude.
 
Kathryn, thank you for you input.
educatedindian and miliehighsalute thank you for your advise, guidance and wisdom.

[milehighsalute]

well.....since i brought it up it's up to me to suggest onepaw gets moved to non-frauds

as long as no more ceremony takes place or any misguidance

i really dont have a problem with dreamcatchers, totems or anything as long as you say teach that some tribes other than that you are affiliated with are the ones who practice these things

onepaw has worked on changing his site around, also had stopped asking for money on his site and facebook and appears to be willing to work with newagefrauds as well.......he said he read the site and knows exactly where we are coming from

as al said, the education part is important.....as long as done right and specific........pan-indianism really doesnt help any of us, so please attach history (ie: when talking about dreamcatchers make sure you mention that it is the ojibwe who believe in them, or when you teach about totems make sure to specify that its tribes of the pacific northwest who practice)

pan-indianism is what brought you to our attention.....sure kids should learn about tipis, but they should learn it was plains indians who dwelled in them

and even if you dont do ceremonies at new age equinox solstice hocus-pocus get naked mumbo jumbos, it looks as if you are and legitimizing these people, which in turn makes it look as if we as indians, or as the non-indians see as pan-indians all believe in that garbage

thats my only suggestions........

as you see more and more people are starting to look here before buying, whether its for crafts and ceremony, more white people both european and stateside are getting angrier about being ripped off or endangered, more are starting to do their homework and i say GOOD......they shoulda thoroughly done it to begin with

i for one would be glad to have you on our side

[milehighsalute]

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