Author Topic: so we call out the frauds...let's call out the SUPPORTERS now!!  (Read 7115 times)

Offline milehighsalute

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so we call out the frauds...let's call out the SUPPORTERS now!!
« on: February 07, 2013, 05:16:59 pm »
ok, i know some were decieved, i am not talking about them

i am talking about the ones who can have a real indian face to face tell them that what is being taught is wrong and they get mad and defend the fraud. why do they continue to think it's no big deal when us skins get offended but attack us when we stand our ground on anything spiritual? they get PISSED at me when they ask about pueblo religion....because i dont know much about it and what i do know i WONT tell them, because we are not supposed to. we are a very private people. we do NOT discuss what happens inside kivas or moradas, yet they keep asking and if they dont get an answer they will make one up. a typical discussion with your average white (not all) goes something like this:

white: can you tell me what this means.

injun: sorry, i would rather not....would you like some fry bread?

white: but i NEED to know, why wont you tell me? my friend who is lakota from vermont named grandfather buffaloturd wiseblood said that all spirituality needs to be shared. he should know, he is the crystal keeper of the hopi and lived amongst the chrokee.

injun: well sorry, your friend was wrong, how come i dont ever see him at pow-wows? at least the ones that indians go to anyways?

white: the correct term is native american, my great great grandmother walked the trail of tears

injun: whatever, anyways looks like there will be a crown dance exhibition during break....thas gonna be cool

white: yeah i am going to make my own crown dance costume for the next powwow, i am also making my daughter a drum so she can sit in with the cozads

injun: they are not for powwow, in fact they are religious, that's not a good idea you cant do that, and approaching a southern drum about putting a female, a non-indian child female at that is a vey BAD idea, why cant you just eat frybread and watch like everybody else?

white: well, i am going to do it anyways, grandpa buffaloturd told me over the internet that i can, what does crown dancing mean? and do you think they would let me contest with the fancydancers or should i just do the intertribals? maybe i can dance as a koshare clown!

injun: again, i dont discuss religion ok, i wont tell you what it means.

white: but the native americans have a lesson to teach us, their message is meant for everybody.

injun: seriously man, what is wrong with your OWN religion and customs. you have a rich history yourself, why dont you get involved with your culture? like i said why can't you just go to powwow, eat some frybread and observe?

white: because i RESPECT you

injun: *sigh*  ::)

ATTN TWINKIES: cultural rape is still rape and NO MEANS NO

Offline earthw7

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Re: so we call out the frauds...let's call out the SUPPORTERS now!!
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2013, 10:29:23 pm »
How many time have we had this conversation with non natives.
Our ceremonies are not for the public and it is only for those who are
from that culture and even at that it is only for those who are activly
a part of the society of  community
In Spirit

Offline milehighsalute

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Re: so we call out the frauds...let's call out the SUPPORTERS now!!
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2013, 09:37:17 pm »
how many twinkies will read this and think "this isn't me"? haha

Offline Odelle

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Re: so we call out the frauds...let's call out the SUPPORTERS now!!
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2013, 06:13:43 am »
Milehighsalute:

As someone who cried, not once but TWICE, at Dances With Wolves, I am offended by your use of "injun". You could stand a lesson in tolerance and respect toward your people, a lesson best taught by ME, a blonde lady with partial , 100% authentic Cherokee-*Athabaskan blood.

*Just the other week I overheard some dude talking about being part-Athabaskan. I'm going to start telling people that I am Indo-European.
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Offline milehighsalute

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Re: so we call out the frauds...let's call out the SUPPORTERS now!!
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2013, 08:46:19 pm »
 ::) all us ndns refer to ourselves as injuns, skins, wagon burners, PN's.....i live in denver.....while it isnt rapid city or albuquerque we have a huge indian population here....its just how we talk....what can i say? IT'S AN INJUN THING  ;)

Offline milehighsalute

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Re: so we call out the frauds...let's call out the SUPPORTERS now!!
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2013, 08:50:12 pm »
and why the hell you cry about dances with wolves? and how could you watch it more than once except if you wanted a good laugh?

Offline Odelle

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Re: so we call out the frauds...let's call out the SUPPORTERS now!!
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2013, 05:51:29 am »
Whoops! I was making a joke, there.

I witnessed more or less a conversation like that at a party in Boulder once. A guy I knew who is NA used "Indian" or "Skin" or something and this random hippy-esque girl launched into a speech about racial slurs or something. When she stopped to breathe, the guy told her that HE was Indian and she did not even skip a beat just went right on about psychological colonialism or something.
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Offline earthw7

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Re: so we call out the frauds...let's call out the SUPPORTERS now!!
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2013, 12:39:03 am »
too funny here on the rez we call ourselves skins, and when we are teasing other things
In Spirit