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Offline Sturmboe

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Jan Uwe Lahann
« on: February 22, 2014, 09:31:46 am »
Who knows Jan Uwe Lahann,

he is one of the last survivor of the last big soux - war 1868 (correkt date?), a rainbowwarrior..., told, he learned by lakota and crow native medicine.
http://www.medizinkreis.de/index.php/beratung/spirituelle-beratung.

I´m sure he is a fraud.

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Re: Jan Uwe Lahann
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2014, 04:16:36 pm »
He is very diversified:

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    Profile details
    Jan-Uwe Lahann
    Portfolio
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    Contacts
    Groups
    Events
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I offer

    Free Website Analysis
    Webdesign
    Homepage
    Website
    Website
    Internet page design
    Website
    Internet presence
    Website
    Internet Project
    Search Engine Optimization
    SEO
    Search Engine Marketing
    SEM
    Content Management System
    CMS
    JOOMLA
    WordPress
    PHP
    HTML
    CSS
    Web 2.0
    Hosting
    Corporate Identity
    Internet Marketing
    Online Marketing
    Online Marketing Strategies
    Online shop for fine arts and crafts

I'm looking for

    Professional PHP programmers for the range Joomla components use or modules
    Entrepreneurs who want to increase your order volume
    Entrepreneurs who want to rejuvenate your website
    Entrepreneurs who want to update your website
    Linking with themed websites
    Artisans want to be an online sales form

Experience

    9 years
    03/2005 - present
    SmartlyWeb
    (The company name is only for logged visible members.)
    1 years
    2 months
    01/2013 - today
    Manager
    Kunando - online shop for high quality and exquisite crafts
    www.kunando.de
    7 years
    9 months
    06/2006 - present
    Medicine Circle
    Shamanic practices
    www.medizinkreis.de

    9 years
    3 months
    10/1999 - 12/2008
    System Advisor
    EDS Business Solutions GmbH
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http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xing.com%2Fprofile%2FJanUwe_Lahann

He is a admirer of Sun Bear.  If you do a search on him on this forum, you will find many references to him as a well known fraud and exploiter.

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Also a variety of shamanic healing and recovery processes I offer that are to lead to the traditions and ceremonies of the Indians partly back. As example would be the Medicine wheel , whose origins are to be found in the vision of Sun Bear. Furthermore you have the possibility to participate in my rituals, events such as the power hike or the medicine wheel experience.
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(Ah!  The ancient, sacred "power hike" ritual.  Now I have been looking for someone to teach me that! ;D ;D ;D)

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.medizinkreis.de%2F

On this website, he does not claim any special lineage, but says he just learned things on his own.

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My name is Jan and I am Wanageeska, this is my soul name. I have found that by this means "white spirit".

I want to get rid of a few words about me here. I am often asked where and by whom I was trained. However, since one can not derive the driving skills of a motorist from his vehicle, this question is completely irrelevant.

I would like to order but clearly answer the question write:
On my wall no certificates of training facilities of any kind depend also adopted me no old shaman and taken under his wing. I was also discovered no herbs uncle and I inherited his knowledge and I have lived not who-knows-how many years with a witch.

No, I got my knowledge. By nature itself, from my Spirits, by the Creator himself. In addition, I have had companions, people who have accompanied me a part of my life and involved in time because my knowledge were to increase. Also, I have observed a lot in nature. I watched animals, trees, bushes, grasses, clouds, wind, sun, moon, stars, weather, mountains, valleys and seas. By watching and listening I have learned a lot.

To bring it to the point, Mother Earth, Father Sun, the creator and life itself were my teachers. And I'm still learning, and will remain so until my physical shell this existence gives up and goes.

I go to the shamanic path as a shaman initiated and integrate the learned and my experiences in my work and so far it is possible for me in my life. This path is a life lesson of deep introspection and daily consciousness. My empathy and my connection to help me among other things, in my shamanic work.

As a confident person, I'm always on the move because standing still means falling back. This I myself have experienced painful, such as by near-death experiences or leave old beliefs or the burning of the old life. In addition, I make herbal essences, by subject or by personal problems, here. These are essences that act on the energy body to soul, mind and body.

Shamanism has not only with Native American spirituality emulate within the meaning of the rites and ceremonies in the traditional sense. However, the boundaries are blurred and no one can separate them yet really. And no one really wants to, and why?

I like to accompany you on your way. If you are interested you can write to me or call me easy. For more information you get here: http://www.medizinkreis.de
Aho

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Re: Jan Uwe Lahann
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2014, 04:58:41 pm »
Who knows Jan Uwe Lahann,

he is one of the last survivor of the last big soux - war 1868 (correkt date?), a rainbowwarrior..., told, he learned by lakota and crow native medicine.
http://www.medizinkreis.de/index.php/beratung/spirituelle-beratung.

I´m sure he is a fraud.

Lahann is about as genuine as a three-Euro bill. I've run into his name several times before during research, but decided against publishing him. For one, he did not appear to be overly successful, rather like a two-bit criminal (= Eierdieb), if two bit isn't even too ambitious to describe him. Second, he seems quite far from being among the brightest bulbs in the lamp shop. A further indicator is that Lahann apparently cannot earn his living with his shamanising, but also advertises services as a web designer etc, and also seems to promote dubious get-rich-quick systems. From what I saw today, there seems to have occured some turn-over with his IT clientele as some of the websites he used to maintain do not show up any longer, so I assume they are being maintained by other people meanwhile (which probably points to the fact that he isn't all that successful in this field either).

If I remember correctly, he wasn't taught by medicine persons directly, but by Germans who claim ndn teachers, in particular Archie Fire Lame Deer. Apart from this, Lahann reduced name dropping to mentioning Sun Bear as he makes use of the medicine wheel.

Another thing: your linked his German language website, but this will not be understood by most people here. It is therefore advisable if you made a translation at least of those parts you believe are important. Thnx.


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Re: Jan Uwe Lahann
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2014, 09:39:36 am »
I had searched Lahann under his name and did not found him here in this forum, but I think that it is important to list him. I have not  identified him in the photo definitely, but I believe that he is it.

I had listened to a talk a few years ago held by Lahann. My experience I had sent by a mail to the American Institute. I can not remember everything, but I wrote what I still remember.

At that time he told in his talk, he had worked professional in the computer sector years ago, but this job afflicted him very hard and he needed a U-turn , (his voice seemed to me weepy and reproached). For this reason he had decided to seek another way (apparently a way it demanded an unconditional respect for his decisions, this is my interpretation), in different religions and at least in the indian way of life and in alternative healing, including indian medicine.
He learned native Lakota and Crow medicine and had two native teachers. He speaks Lakota and presented us a part of native Powersongs, he recorded with a friend. (True or not?). For the reason he can heal single-handedly, he wanted to do an apprenticeship as a medical practitioner, he aspired to a small training that has the focus in psychology. I was scared


In the room he had hung up on a (clothing?)line a set of wings and feathers of various birds of prey, each part was added with a label ( I think they were price tags ).
Lahann waited until everyone was quiet in the room. But the calmness was not relaxed and pleasant, the atmosphere was charged and riddled with fear, I think a lot of it came from him, so I had seen it for myself.
Lahann affected to me nervous and anxious, his eyes were always rushed to and away to certain persons, his movements were sprawling, sometimes it seemed, he has no real control over some motions, often they were not appropriated to the situation, he drank hastily Cola with higher caffeine content, bumped into the chair that he almost knocked over, ran several times against the fabric wall.
His voice was different: Full of enthusiasm when someone spoke in his senses and rendered homage to him, self-pitying and partially reproached, when he told of the criticism about his person, f. e. g. when he was accused on his website as a charlatan; and he was immediately already for an attack with an aggressiveness, when hushed criticism was voiced in the room.

This is of course my own interpretation here, as I have experienced it, others may see it differently.

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Re: Jan Uwe Lahann
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2014, 03:30:31 pm »
Let where to start  >:(
WHAT BIG SIOUX WAR?? 1868?
They would make him 149 years old!
We don't make outsiders medicine men never had although today they seem to come out of the
wood work claiming all kind of things.
How do you know he speak lakota? I listen to some of these people claiming to speak my language
and they are not speaking Lakota.
So this man is taught by fakes so he is a fake he does not speak for my people  >:(
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Re: Jan Uwe Lahann
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2014, 05:14:35 pm »
How do you know he speak lakota? I listen to some of these people claiming to speak my language
and they are not speaking Lakota.
So this man is taught by fakes so he is a fake he does not speak for my people  >:(

Earth, in one of his profiles Lahann claims he spoke Lakota. He also claims a 'good' knowledge of English, while I gained the impression that his abilities were, errm: modest. Well, it seems these are not the only things he's deluded about. In fact, in one of his profiles, he only lists 'German' as the language he can communicate in - no mention of English or Lakota or whatever.
He maintains profiles with Xing and LinkedIn, and in his Xing profile claims he speaks English, Spanish, and Lakota, while the LinkedIn profile only mentions English and Lakota.

The Xing profile also says Lahann is a member of "Wolfsklan" which was founded by one Matthias Walter who also goes by "Lightfire". Walter claims Larson Medicinehorse as his teacher and says Medicinehorse 'foresaw' the founding of this clan. Another claim Walter uses is that he was a messenger of Buffalo Calf Woman. I do not recall Lahann claiming membership in Wolfsklan from earlier research, so it is possible that he is a later addition to the outfit and may have received any 'training' by Walter.



@Sturmboe:
From what you describe, it seems Lahann is having mental issues and should seek professional help. He does not seem to be prepared to recognize he needs professional help, so nothing can be done until he becomes a danger to himself or to others.

However, in my research I also realised that there is not one single person who claims Lahann for their teacher, despite Lahann offering/ selling courses to make shame-ons. So apparently he appears weird enough he is not attracting clients, which is good news. I do see some results showing that Lahann maintains a few websites for a minor number of clients, and I also noted that other clients apparently switched to different services since the last time I researched Lahann. This is probably also due to his issues.

Over the years, I have researched some persons who - even judging only by their comments on websites and in advertisements - gave a very strong impression of being in need of professional help. Still most of them managed to draw customers, at least for some time, with a few clients constantly ignoring all warning signals.

Although this lecture done by Lahann certainly will have been an irritating experience to sit through, it seems that Lahann is so much off the rocker he's discouraging the audience from booking seminars and courses with him.
As I said before just from a mere glance at his different activities, he seems not to attract clients but rather to the contrary, and therefore he's grabbing for every straw in sight which might generate some income, inlcuding pyramid schemes.


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Re: Jan Uwe Lahann
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2014, 05:49:06 pm »
How do I know he speaks Lakota: Well, he did it, explained what "Mitakuye oyasin" means - and he could analyze it better than a lakota - mother - tongue - speaking - native - american can ever did. If I had understand anything....acoustically I could not identify anything from that "sound" what should be a word - well, in Lakota I do know just nothing.  Well, he´s really old, full-filled with experience of life you can just dream about. 149 young, our german anti - aging - processings are making this possible, and we are best educated - you know!  But all jokes aside. I think you know this people who can speak about your life better than you could do it on your own.
They are telling their own tale... ;D

I hope I din´t form misunderstandings; I just wrote above what I saw, felt and heard when Lahann was talking, but I don´t comment on this.
Why should I do this!? His reactions and words are telling its own tale, mental issues, definitely, but if he would seek for professional help?

Lahann speaks for no native people, I think he would be too anxiously to bear up the consequences, so he got his circle....

"So apparently he appears weird enough he is not attracting clients..."
In this case I´m not sure. He is carefully, knowing the reactions which will come up. Some people, so it appears to me obviously by their reactions and talkings - they know him for a longer time, for one person I´m nearly sure. Is he not-dangerous just he doesn´t distinguish himself in the broad public?


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Re: Jan Uwe Lahann
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2014, 10:28:46 pm »
How do I know he speaks Lakota: Well, he did it, explained what "Mitakuye oyasin" means - and he could analyze it better than a lakota - mother - tongue - speaking - native - american can ever did. If I had understand anything....acoustically I could not identify anything from that "sound" what should be a word - well, in Lakota I do know just nothing.  Well, he´s really old, full-filled with experience of life you can just dream about. 149 young, our german anti - aging - processings are making this possible, and we are best educated - you know!  But all jokes aside. I think you know this people who can speak about your life better than you could do it on your own.
They are telling their own tale... ;D

I hope I din´t form misunderstandings; I just wrote above what I saw, felt and heard when Lahann was talking, but I don´t comment on this.
Why should I do this!? His reactions and words are telling its own tale, mental issues, definitely, but if he would seek for professional help?

Lahann speaks for no native people, I think he would be too anxiously to bear up the consequences, so he got his circle....

"So apparently he appears weird enough he is not attracting clients..."
In this case I´m not sure. He is carefully, knowing the reactions which will come up. Some people, so it appears to me obviously by their reactions and talkings - they know him for a longer time, for one person I´m nearly sure. Is he not-dangerous just he doesn´t distinguish himself in the broad public?

So are you saying that this person knows my language better than me? I live among my people, are you saying he knows my culture and my history better than me,
now that what i called white prilvedge how can you even say someone who dont live among us know more about us
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Re: Jan Uwe Lahann
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2014, 01:23:10 am »
So are you saying that this person knows my language better than me? I live among my people, are you saying he knows my culture and my history better than me,
now that what i called white prilvedge how can you even say someone who dont live among us know more about us

Earth, I think you misread what Sturmboe has written.  English is not her first language. She indicates that what she has said in her first paragraph is not serious. She is making fun of this man who claims to be 149 years old and speaking Lakota.  She further says he is telling his own tales, ie he is making things up and appears to need mental health treatment.  That the native peoples can speak about their own lives better than the wannabes.

How do I know he speaks Lakota: Well, he did it, explained what "Mitakuye oyasin" means - and he could analyze it better than a lakota - mother - tongue - speaking - native - american can ever did. If I had understand anything....acoustically I could not identify anything from that "sound" what should be a word - well, in Lakota I do know just nothing.  Well, he´s really old, full-filled with experience of life you can just dream about. 149 young, our german anti - aging - processings are making this possible, and we are best educated - you know!  But all jokes aside. I think you know this people who can speak about your life better than you could do it on your own.
They are telling their own tale... ;D


I hope I din´t form misunderstandings; I just wrote above what I saw, felt and heard when Lahann was talking, but I don´t comment on this.
Why should I do this!? His reactions and words are telling its own tale, mental issues, definitely, but if he would seek for professional help?

Lahann speaks for no native people, I think he would be too anxiously to bear up the consequences, so he got his circle....

"So apparently he appears weird enough he is not attracting clients..."
In this case I´m not sure. He is carefully, knowing the reactions which will come up. Some people, so it appears to me obviously by their reactions and talkings - they know him for a longer time, for one person I´m nearly sure. Is he not-dangerous just he doesn´t distinguish himself in the broad public?

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Re: Jan Uwe Lahann
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2014, 02:50:26 pm »
sorry ;) just misunderstood
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Re: Jan Uwe Lahann
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2014, 05:03:15 pm »
Hello Earthw,

no problem,
well, sometimes I jape a lot about things, which are so obviously false and I thought I didn´t need to rectify the circumstances.
 :)