First of all, thank u all for responding.
Secondly, please look at the 2010 census report. There is a detailed map of the reservations in the US. I don't know the exact number of reservations but it appears to b several hundred. California alone looks to have over a hundred. educatedindian, as a historian, maybe u know the exact number of reservations. Please inform because i cannot find that detail. Thank u.
----my point to earthwoman7 was that she only speaks for standing rock reservation and not the other couple of hundred reservations. She is a member of that 1 reservation and she only speaks for herself. She is a member of a rich reservation with 2 casinos. She gets casino money and has a top 1% job on the rez. She is an elite. All facts.
----To use your analogy, educatedindian, earthwomen7 is the Frenchman who came to America and says she speaks for the rest of Europe. She does not, nor does anyone else. She only speaks for herself & those who voted for her as a counsil member on standing rock reservation. Truth b told, from her writings, I like and understand earthwoman7, I agree with many things she writes but not everything. However, she responded to my introduction by stating that I was "ranting." "Ranting" is a word one uses as an insult. I'm a common man, some might say i'm pitiful.. but i don't deserve to be disrespected...
Thirdly, u, educatedindian, did write something on this website in which u stated the content was about 18 pages long. You've forgotten. Far enough, none of us r getting younger. I wouldn't think u were human w/out making a mistake now and then. Do the research please and when u find it please do not feel the need to apologize. We all forget and u have 10 years of content here... perfectly understandible.
Now, to your post educatedindian...
I'll give you a brief history, since I'm a historian:
1. The councils were set up under FDR and John Collier as part of the Indian New Deal, to lower poverty and give self determination. There was no need to use them to steal land or resources. That had been going on all by itself since Washington.
----The article I read was not over the stealing of land and resources: That suggestion was made by earthwoman7 & now u also educated. No, the article i was referrencing discussed the stealing of money, cash, dinero--8 billion dollars. The money went missing (disappeared) from the offices of the BIA or BLM (forgive my memory) to the reservations. The suggestion from the article was that it had to be members of the BIA or BLM and reservation counsil members... Bottom line money from this article, Money, not resources or land, was stolen...
2. No, they're not traditional councils. That doesn't make every last person on them evil nor puppets. Some are corrupt, many more are not.
----- educatedindian, please read over what u have written... Your first line... "THEY ARE NOT!!!! TRADITIONAL COUNSILS!!!!" THANK U!!!! If it is not traditional, it is a fake fraud counsil!!! I never wrote they were all evil, u introduced that concept. But, Yes! If their not tradional then by defintion their fake frauds.
U can't have it both ways by stated u want to expose fake frauds individuals who teach traditions which r not theirs and support fake fraud counsils that R NOT TRADITIONAL!!!! If the counsils are not tradional then they have no authority. If the counsils r not traditional, then they r FAKE FRAUDS!!
3. Fact is, without these councils, imperfect as they are, much more theft against Natives would still be happening. Some councils have actually done a pretty good job, and the people on some rezzes are pretty prosperous. Mescaleros, Seminole, Mississippi Choctaw, Pequot, Ak Chin, Salt River Rez, some of the Pueblos, many of the California tribes, all doing real well. On many rezzes where there's still deep poverty, it is not because of the councils, but in spite of them.
----Maybe?? If i were u i would state that as "..in my opinion,," as it is not a "fact." But, here is a fact. r they tradional? No!... that is a fact. U stated as much on your second point. We don't know wheather or not "..much more theft.. would b happening" with tradional counsils. If i had to venture a guess, I would error in favor of the traditionalist... U have a different opinion, i suggest we agree to disagree. Im in favor of the 100% tradionalist and u r in favor of the counsils set up by the US "imperfect as they are"... Is that a far statement?
I hope no one here feels i have been disrespectful. Im not trying to b disrepectful. My sole purpose is to voice my opinion and 100% support for the tradional people. Anything and anyone else is a fake fraud to me. These frauds include many of frauds this very website have pointed out. I fully support that any fraud should b pointed out.
I brought up Wounded Knee 73 as that is an example of a fake fraud counsil gone crazy. Traditional people from Pine Ridge reservation were being killed and those tradionalist asked the world to come in and see/help stop the massacre.
Many people came and they are still coming as the tradionalist never have stopped asking for help. No disrespect to earthwoman7 or u educated indian as u r not tradionalist from Pine Ridge and therefore have no voice of who goes there and what those tradional people from there choose to share with people... U have no voice. You, may share an opinion, but your opinion has no authority...
This is y i asked that we all denounce the behavior of homicidal maniacs that massacred people during (and for years before and after) Wounded Knee 73.
This is y i also asked that we denounce the behavior of the fake fraud non tradionalist counsil who steal from their own people.... if educatedindian says many of nontradional counsil r good people, i believe him but like educatedindian stated, they r "NOT TRADITIONAL" and therefore, by definition fake frauds...
I don't think it is too much to ask people to denounce maniacs and thieves... And, for the record, if earthwoman7 says she is not a supporter of the manics and thieves, I will believe her. However, I do not support anyone who will not denounce maniacs and thieves.
Your turn. Thank u for the opportunity to share and explain. For me, if it is not 100% tradional, its fake... Simple...
