To all Mr Spellsingers followers and to Mr. Spellsinger himself.
As I stated in the beginning I did meet you many years ago by chance. Until that time I had never been to a new age store, or physic faire. I had never even heard the word new age until then.
You may pretend that you do not remember that day, I believe you do.
I have read your post and in your own words you speak of sitting "in circle with some honorable men, and you were humbled to be in their presence", please correct me if this is not what you have said.
I would like to address one of these honorable men that you sat with. His name was Jim Gillahan. Now I will give you a history on Mr. Gillahan of who he was.
Jim Gillihan was a white man that was dying of cancer, he was in a hospital and he asked if a medicine man could be sent for to preform a healing. Mr. Gillahan at that time was dying and there was nothing more the doctors were able to do for him. I will not name the medicine man however I will say he is a relation.
There was a healing ceremony preformed, and yes Mr. Gillahan went into remission. However the path Mr. Gillahan took after that was exploiting our people.
He began to give lectures about his near death experience and went into details of what went on during the healing ceremony . He charged people to come and hear his story. The man traveled all over the states making money off of a sacred ceremony that saved his life.
As time went on, this relation was at my home and word got out about what Mr. Gillahan was doing. This relation called him from my phone and told him to never use his name in his lectures. He was very angry Mr. Gillahan was making monies from what he had done for him.
Some time had passed and then Mr. Gillahan "had a vision" to begin a sun dance in southern Ind. He called his group the spotted bead clan.
I had received a call from a shirt tail cousin that told me she was part of Mr. Gillahan's group. I myself drove down there to confront him, however he was not at his sun dance at that time.. What I did see was a man boiling water and putting something in it, I asked him what it was. He told me it was medicine for their sweat lodge, I asked him what kind of medicine it was. He replied it was cocoa leaves. I know that is the plant that cocaine is made from. I told the man he wasn't suppose to put anything in the water. However that fell on deaf ears.
I did finally have a very brief conversation on the phone with Mr. Gillahan and as soon as I mentioned who my relation was he cut our conversation off.
Another note here:
Mr Gillihan in his lecture travels, carried a pipe that he stated had once belonged to Sitting Bull. Now I ask you do you really think the Lakota Nation would allow a white man to have the pipe that belonged to one of their greatest leaders? I don't think so.
I witnessed many things there that not only was not tradtional but also illegal . It took myself and my grandfather to get through to this relation that what she was involved in was wrong. But before that happened her youngest daughter was sexual abused by one of Mr. Gillahan's head sun dancers.
So with that I ask you. You were humbled to sit with a man that not only exploited our people, but allowed sexual abuse to go on in his group and the use of an illegal drug?
That tells me you are no better than he is.
This is not about a man that had faults, this was a man that was an exploiter and was nothing more than a scam artist.
What I have said here is not heresay, but the truth and can prove it.
Exploiters and frauds seem to always travel in the same circle, Mr Spellsinger. And what you say and what you do, don't go together at all.
As I stated in my former post, if you would like to have an open discussion in public on what you believe is cherokee tradtions. I would be more than willing to discuss it. Not in this room or through emails. I can come to you or vise versa, we can arrange to have a open forum for all to come and listen, however no admission costs, free to the public. I can and will prove what you lead people to believe is cherokee tradtions, is not. Get back with me on this an let me know.