Question?????

[celticcherokee]

Being new here I wonder if what I say will be a waste of bandwith? Anyway I wonder where we would all be right now if all of lifes experinces was based on what we read in books. I mean realy would we ever truly know what was going on?

[danielle]

Being new here I wonder if what I say will be a waste of bandwith? Anyway I wonder where we would all be right now if all of lifes experinces was based on what we read in books. I mean realy would we ever truly know what was going on?

Thank you........It`s the world in which we live that is the time and place for us to learn......books are only a small part of it.If i had to go through life with a book in my face,thinking that is the only way to gain any knowledge ,it would have destroyed my natural urge to learn.

Funny thing though,my parents tried to home school me but after two years,i told them they were the worst teachers i ever had and went back to school.LOL!!

[Mo]

there is currently an exhibit in old montreal that "proves" the iroquois along the st lawrence disappeared. came as quite a surprise to the onkwehonwe who live there today. think they will write a book about it and years from now it will be believed?
this forum used to be a place where people could question without hesitation and fear of being ridiculed.

[danielle]

There are some things you can learn from books and some things you
can't. Because there are some things you can't, that *doesn't* negate
the value of those things you can.

This thread was started by a person "calling herself" a Lenape, but
didn't even know that sweats are a traditional Lenape practice. She
prefers what she learns from her "elders." So, what did they ever
teach her about the sweatlodge? *Nothing.* I provided her with a
long list of sources--from books!--to help her in learning about the
sweatlodge usages of "her people."

Then, I corrected a misunderstanding about the sweatlodge erected inside
the Big House, by citing the words of a Lenape elder--found in a
*book*!

Marlene added a very interesting practice of the Innu, recorded in 1633,
which, in form, function and language, showed a close parallel to an old
Lenape practice. Of course, one would only recognize the parallel if
they read *books.*

Then, those who despise scholarship and book-learning chime in with
their two cents, adding NOTHING to the discussion but broad, opinionated
generalities--proving nothing but their own ignorance concerning the
subject.

I'm getting a real sense that many of the members of this NAFPS are,
themselves, posers and frauds. People calling themselves "Lenape" and
"Cherokee" and other native nationalities regularly exhibit their total
unfamiliarity with anything *real* members of those tribes know.

In truth, it's all kind of sad. Now, who wants to add to our
knowledge on Lenape sweats? (That's a rhetorical question. I don't
expect there will be any additions from this assemblage.)

It`s never questioned when we say we`re white..........Why is that,Ray? All i see in what you have said here is the continuance of genocide.White man trying to take the Indian out of us and deny us our identity."posers"and "frauds" isn`t that what you would call it?? Do you realize how many Indians you claim to be "posers" and 'frauds" simply b/c they have no tribal affiliation.So  what does that do,automatically extract blood and turn you into a white person??
I can`t see where it`s any of your proper business if i ask an elder,read a book or come to newagefraud.org to get the information i want or need.It makes none of us any more or less of an Indian.

[Barnaby_McEwan]

I'm locking this thread before any more hurtful and regrettable things are said. Ray, I see a number of your more abrasive posts are now gone, and take that as an encouraging sign that you've decided to moderate the tone of your posts in future.